We Play Full Out with Bart and Sunny

The Loneliest Room in the World (And Why High Achievers Are Dying In It)

• Bart and Sunny Miller • Season 1 • Episode 94

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We’re told it’s lonely at the top. But what if that loneliness isn’t a badge of honor, but a biological threat equivalent to smoking 15 cigarettes a day? In this episode, Sunny and Bart challenge the most dangerous lie in entrepreneurship: the myth of the “self-made” success story.

Discover why your nervous system is a social organ that cannot regulate in a vacuum, and how the absence of a supportive community is capping your income, your impact, and your health. You’ll learn about the science of co-regulation (and a fascinating study about choirs and heartbeats), the strategic advantage of “borrowed belief,” and why the wrong circle is the most insidious form of self-harm.

If you’ve ever felt alone in your ambition, this episode is your antidote. Stop trying to sing a solo in a soundproof room. It’s time to find your choir.

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SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to We Play Full Out with Bart and Sonny Miller. Take it away, Sonny.

SPEAKER_01:

Thanks, Bart. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

What are we going to talk about this week? I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_01:

We're going to talk about the loneliest room in the world and why high achievers are dying in it.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man. I don't want to die in a lonely room.

SPEAKER_01:

Me neither.

SPEAKER_00:

Holy cow. All right. I hope we have your attention now. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. Let's say you just closed the biggest deal of your career.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

You hit the revenue goal that seemed impossible six months ago. You finally got the recognition you've been fighting for. You pick up your phone. So excited to share the news. Scroll through your context. And you slowly put the phone back down because who would even get it?

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Who would understand, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I see this in it so many times. And it's like, who in my world understands where I'm at? And in certain rooms, it's, you know, it's obviously that's important. But another thing that I find in the same realm, not to probably go sideways a little bit, is all of a sudden you win the gold medal. Right? And then it's like, why do they go into depression?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

They just won the biggest thing they've ever set out to do. And yet, how many athletes, how many high performers hit the big thing and then boom? Anyway, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, do you want to expand on that?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, no, I do. Why they do is because they uh they've worked so long and they've had that goal so long, and they didn't have the micro wins along the way. So when they get there, it's like their career is finished in essence, but it's not finished, and they don't know what's next, and they don't know how to reboot and really say, Oh my gosh, I can do this, I can keep going, I can so they fall into a depression because they literally did everything they set out to do.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And so there's all sorts of research studies around it, and it is very, very fascinating. But so many times, so many high performers, we set these audacious goals. We put our heads down. We every day we know we're gonna get there. And then all of a sudden that day arrives, and it's like it arrived. Now what? I don't have that horizon in front of me. Yeah, I don't have that. So what do I do? How do I deal with that? Which sounds so crazy, right? To me, it's like the first time I heard it, I'm like, no way. Like, how could that even be possible? But it it is a very, very big thing, and uh it's something that we have to be very, very conscious of in life is as we journey, no matter what the horizon is that we're going for, how do we have micro wins? How do we keep ourselves just enjoying the process? And when we get there, be able to just enjoy that and literally be able to just keep moving forward with whatever it is we want to do.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And I mean, it's not like I feel like it's a little bit off topic, but it's a little bit on because what I I see would be like, like you said, you have a big audacious goal, do you put your your head down and you go? Maybe like the people around you are a little bit left in the dust.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So part of that, you know, you reach your big goal, and now what? It's like we're relationships are suffering, yeah, too. So like all around you, all of a sudden the horizon's gone, and maybe there's some disconnect happening.

SPEAKER_00:

There's a lot of disconnect that happens because all of a sudden, I mean, I'm just gonna use, and I know it's you guys, you've heard this a million times, but I'm just gonna bring it up the five-minute mile, right? How did that four-minute mile? Sorry, so so sorry, four-minute mile, but like when that was set, how many people knew it could be possible? I mean, that alone is worth more in my humanity than anything, right? Yeah, but even though the the person that said it though is sitting there going, now what? Holy cow, I did it. You know what I mean? It's it's like both there's two different things because I see people who get these big deals are doing these great things, and people are like, Oh my gosh, if they can, I can too. But then the person that actually did it is sitting there going, now what? I did it, and where's my community? Where's all the things? What what what did I do all this for?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

What was what was the end? Was it now I've got all this money? But where's and how do I enjoy it?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, it's just it's just a it's so dynamics are so amazing. So anyway, they're there. Let me not get us off topic.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it's good, it's good. I love it. Um, and I I do once again feel like it's on topic. Um, coming back around to like you want to celebrate your wins, but you have nobody to celebrate them with.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, family might say that's nice, dear, especially if it's your mom or dad.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, your old friends might hear a number that sounds like a brag to them. Very real.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Your team sees you as the boss, not a peer. And so you're kind of left in this situation where there are people around that you know, but you've never felt more alone.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And can I bring another side note up on this? Sorry, another tangent that is kind of downloaded to me is that so a lot of times people set these audacious goals to distract themselves from other things in their life. And so what happens is like for me sometimes, maybe I'm maybe I'm facing in my family a situation that is just unbearable to me. So to escape that, I go through a process of setting something else and I just relentlessly go after it. But what I didn't do is fix this other problem. So I get there only to realize that, like, oh my gosh, what in the world? You know, this is this was the real thing that's just been driving me crazy. And the reason I bring this up is I watched a deal on Tim Ferriss, and uh he, I mean, you guys know Tim Ferris, I mean, amazing, so many cool things, right? But what he never talked about was how he always wanted to commit suicide, and then how he was raped when he was younger. And he never ever wanted those secrets out. Because if they got out, then what? Right? And then the family and all the there's so much around it. But yeah, here's a guy that was highly successful, but dealing with suicide. Like that just brings so much up when you're thinking about these kind of things, right? And high performers, I think the reason they're high performers is is because they want to avoid something else, so they lose themselves so heavily into something else to get away from the pain.

SPEAKER_01:

It's escaping, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And once again, I'm please don't take this the wrong way. I'm not saying every high performer, I'm not trying to group everybody into this, but a lot of us that are high performers are really trying to escape something else. So we dive into something to avoid the pain, to give us somewhere else a distraction, but we don't get back into the fact of healing and taking care of ourselves along the way. So we hit that goal. We're got all these accolades, all these people looking at us, all these things happening, and then all of a sudden the crash happens.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, I can I can relate just from an entrepreneurship perspective, especially where we work together. Like, I mean, if I'm gonna be vulnerable, like if you and I are having issues, like it's easy to reconnect on business. Yeah. And just kind of avoid anything else, you know. It's like, no, let's just focus on this for now.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, and I remember when we hit our first million dollars, we never told any of our family. No, we wouldn't even think about telling it because they would all look at it, not once again if my family's listening and I'll love you all, but they would look at me like, so what? And the second thing is is oh, okay, here it goes again, you know. Yeah, and it it's not not that that way they would do that intentionally. I'm not trying to say that, but they just don't understand some of that kind of stuff. And that's okay. Like, that's okay. It's not their fault either. And I'm not sure it's not uh anyway. I feel like I'm stuttering through this because I got so many things going through my brain. So bear with me. But that being said, let's let's really dive into this because I think it's important. And if right now you're fighting with some insecurities, you're fighting with some demons, you're fighting with these things, that is where I just want you to know there are people there, there are communities there that understand this and at the highest freaking level, and you're not alone, and there's nothing wrong with you. And I just want to make that really freaking clear.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I mean, when you sit and talk about Tim and like not wanting it to get out, like that's when the poison is in your body. When you speak it out, it it comes out, right? You know, and I have heard many, many, many entrepreneurs like they just don't say what they're going through. Right. And I think we'd all be surprised to figure out, wow, we're all in this together, actually.

SPEAKER_00:

We really are. And you know, it anyway. I yes, let's just keep going. I could rant all day and I love it. And I I want to make sure that we're really benefiting you, the listener. And uh, you as a listener right now, I want you to really just get whole with yourself and ask yourself, why am I chasing this? Why am I doing this? What is my why? And what am I trying to run from? And if there is something, please, please, please, let's figure that out, and that'll help you when you get to the win.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So coming back to the loneliness factor, because that's what this is all about. Like sometimes we look at people at the top and they say they're the loneliest, you know, people, but it's not just the top. I mean, we speak a lot to entrepreneurship, but it's really the grind of life. It is. Um, for entrepreneurs specifically, maybe it's the Tuesday afternoon when the client pulls out, payrolls due, you're staring at the ceiling, wondering if you're completely insane for choosing this path.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, it's that quiet moments of doubt when the only voice you hear is your own.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And we all know sometimes our mind is our greatest enemy. So we're we're kind of sold a lie that success is a solo sport, that the crown is heavy. You've heard that heavy is the head that wears the crown or something like that. That it's lonely at the top, and we're taught to nod along to these cliches as if they are inevitable laws of nature, that they are not. They are choices and they are killing us. Yeah. So what's fascinating is that our bodies are not designed to win alone.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Last year, the World Health Organization declared lonely loneliness, a pressing global health threat, with a mortality risk equivalent to smoking 15 cigarettes a day. Kind of let that sink in. The isolation that we feel is required by our ambitions has the same biological impact as a pack a day habit.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I want to get into some of the other things we've talked about in the past, which is mind control, all these different things. And I just want you to think right now a little bit about what COVID did. Because COVID, what it did is it separated us to be alone, and it also drove this uh memorandum, if you want to call it, really drove it hard. And so even more people got more isolated, more distant, more away from what they really, and then they didn't have to go into work, they didn't have those people around them, all these things, and it just kept from there adding up to where we have a huge problem today of I've got this by myself, instead of no, I want to do this with community, with people, with these things.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, and that's the perfect, perfect for my next statement, which is that our nervous systems are actually social organs. So we talk a lot about the nervous system. Like it seems like everything kind of stems back to the nervous system lately. We talk about the ability to hold the stress, pressure, and expansion that comes with the bigger life, but we've overlooked the most critical component of that system, and that is co-regulation. Your body is not designed to regulate its own nervous system in a vacuum, it is biologically wired to sync up with other nervous systems, to feel safety, connection, and belonging, not as a concept, but as a felt physiological state.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so good. I'm so glad you're bringing this up.

SPEAKER_01:

And you know, if you sit and think about it really, like we're wired for survival, and that all seems to come back to belonging.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But I never thought about the nervous system needing that co-regulation, also. Like, I guess it makes sense, right? Yeah. Um so there's a beautiful and profound study that illustrates this. So when a group of people sing together, like in a choir, something remarkable happens. Within minutes, their heart rates synchronize and they begin to beat as one.

SPEAKER_00:

That's so cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Isn't that cool? Their breathing falls into the same rhythm, and their nervous systems literally link up, creating a shared state of calm, connected social engagement. That is co-regulation in action. It's your biology responding to the presence of others, finding safety in the collective, and outsourcing some of the burden of self-regulation. I like that. Outsourcing some of the burden of self-regulation. Self-regulation is different. Difficult. Yeah. Stumbling a little. So, like imagine in your entrepreneurial journey, most of us are trying to sing a solo in a soundproof room, wondering why we feel so exhausted and out of tune. We're fighting our own biology, trying to hold the rhythm of our ambition all by ourselves. When you're in a room with people who get it, it's just like you're singing the same song of ambition and uncertainty. And it actually calms your nervous system down. Your heart finds the rhythm of the group. You move from a state of chronic, low-grade fight or flight into a state of grounded creative flow. Amazing.

SPEAKER_00:

It's so good. I I mean, I find this in so many rooms that we've been in is like you get there and you think all the topics are going to be on X, Y, Z, this, that, the other. And then all of a sudden, everybody, even in our events, they come together and they're just like, I can finally breathe. I can finally relax. I can, I just want to sit around. Yeah. I just want to be around this campfire for a few more hours with these people. Yeah. And it's like so interesting how that happens. But when we are in groups of like-minded, really cool, like thinking type of people, it just really, really does help regulate and help you in the hard times of saying, Oh my gosh, did you hear what Bill's going through? And sometimes hearing what Bill goes through makes you go, Life ain't so bad. Yeah. And it's so funny. And some of the toughest times I go, I'm like, oh my gosh, I can always find somebody else, and not that I want to, that's in a worse situation. What am I complaining about? What's going on here? You know? Yeah. But anyway, I think it's so beautiful what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I don't think we've mentioned this on here. If we have, I apologize. But the Harvard study of adult development is one of the longest-running studies on human life in history. For over 85 years, study that long. It has tracked the lives of hundreds of individuals from their youth to their old age. They've analyzed their health, their careers, their happiness, their failures, and their triumphs. After nearly a century of data, the single clearest message from the study is this good relationships keep us happier, healthier, and help us live longer. So again, it wasn't their wealth, their status, or their accolades that determined their well-being at the end of their lives. It was the quality of their relationships. As Esther Perel, who is just, I feel like a genius, says, the quality of your relationships determines the quality of your life. So good. So again, so important to surround ourselves with people, but people who are on our side.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think it's so good. And I think once again, it just comes back to what groups are you part of? How are you getting with these people? What are you able to talk about? And can you be vulnerable in these groups and feel safe enough to let your regulation start to happen for you?

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. So the myth of the self-made entrepreneur is the most dangerous lie in the personal development space because again, it keeps us isolated, competing, and grinding ourselves down to the bone, all while we are pretending we're fine because we're really good at that. But the real magic of community isn't just co-regulation, it's also borrowed belief.

unknown:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

So obviously there's days when your own belief falters. Of course there is. When the evidence of your struggle is louder than the faith in your vision. And then on those days, you need a circle that can lend you their belief in you. You need people who can see your highest potential even when you're buried in the fog of your own doubt. Um, this is what it means to have someone's back. It's the act of loving refusal to let someone play small. Like, no, I'm not gonna let you do that. Yep. You know, push back. Yep. It's a group of people who are so invested in your success that they will hold you accountable to the greatness they see in you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I love that because even if it's painful, yeah, you know, and I think that's the hardest part in relationship is being able to stand for what you know to be true for that person and don't allow them to run from who they really are. And I remember I had a really amazing client for several years, and she would invest in me because she was like, Bart, you make me cry on the calls. Yeah, you make me every time I get off, just so frustrated. And I'm like, why would you want that? Like, what are you talking about? And she's she brought up this that you really, really take the time though to see me and not push back. I mean, you push back on things that you know are my for my best, even though I know it deep inside. I just don't want to do it. And I and I've needed that so much in my life. And in fact, one point, this amazing human um literally didn't talk to me for over three months, like wouldn't, nothing. And I just let them be, and all of a sudden they reached back out and are like, what you said on that last call was so hard for me, but it's transformed my life. And now I'm in such a better place because I took it and I needed time to implement it, and that's why I didn't reach out. And I was just like, Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. I mean, it freaked me out, you know, because I had to be, I had to be stand by what I knew to be true, and not not for money, not for anything else, but for their best interest. And uh it was an amazing relationship and still have an amazing relationship, which is awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it comes to mind it's almost like being a parent, right? Like you see the best in your child, and are you gonna let them not bring that out? Yeah, you know, those are the kind of people you want to surround, not from a parent standpoint, obviously, but it's kind of the same concept.

SPEAKER_00:

It totally is. And it's just like another one of my clients, you know, was like their relationship was in a bad spot and they they just wanted to avoid it. I knew what was going on, they knew what was going on, and I'm like, no, let's talk to your significant other, let's figure this out. This will unlock everything. No, no, no, no, no. If we do, it'll blow everything up, blah, blah, blah, but you know, and finally we we had a way that we got to be able to talk to that significant other, and it just changed everything, everything. But we want to run from some of these problems. The reality is, is if we have it the right way, with the right context, with the right methods, we can crush the world. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, there is a shadow side to this truth, and that is if the right circle is your greatest asset, you guessed it. The wrong circle is the most insidious form of self-harm. That is a strong statement. It is. But surrounding yourself with people who don't want you to succeed, or worse, who are indifferent to your growth is a slow acting poison. The people who subtly question your ambition, the ones who roll their eyes at your new morning routine, the ones whose unlimiting beliefs are so loud that they drown out your own potential. Jim Rohn was right. You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with. Their habits become your habits, their income level becomes your ceiling, their anxiety becomes your baseline, and their resignation to a smaller life becomes your reality. So choosing to stay in proximity to people who drain your energy, doubt your vision, and normalize mediocrity is not loyalty. It is a betrayal of your own future. It is an act of self-harm disguised as social obligation. It's pretty brutal, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a hard reality.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep. So cre curating. Curating your social circle is not ruthless. It is a non-negotiable requirement for your financial, mental, and physical health. You have to be more afraid of who you will become by staying than who you are out of the temporary discomfort of leaving. Let's be clear like we're in family circles and we're in friend circles that maybe like are just fun to go do. I'm not saying that, but who do you spend the most time with? Yep. And do they believe in you?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think it's really important. And also I've had pushback on people of saying, well, you know, I can't join a mastermind because it costs XYZ. And I said, that's like saying I can't get married because it's gonna cost me XYZ.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean That is so good. I've never heard that before.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, no, it's really the truth, though.

SPEAKER_01:

You can't have children, can't have kids. It costs, you know, like it costs me millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know, it's like, what are you talking about? You're gonna invest in no matter what, even if you find somebody that you want to just go to dinner with and buy them dinner, you know, like everything has an investment of some sort of trade-off. Now, I'm not saying I just want you to think about it for a minute. Just so masterminds and things that you're doing are really putting you in the rooms that help you accelerate. It's not about the amount of money you're investing in it. Yeah, it's what you're getting from the ecosystem that's there. And it might be just one relationship that's worth investing in because you you want to be able to connect. Like, and that's okay. It doesn't have to be, oh my gosh, if I invest this, I've got to get this ROI. And that's the way everybody seems it's like, okay, I can only marry you if I get this ROI. I can only have a kid if I get this ROI. I can only, you know, do this if I get an ROI. But I can't invest in this for me to have a better life. I can't invest in this for me just to have an amazing companion that loves me, cares for me, looks out for me, wants me. You know what I mean? It's like it gets twisted so much when people look at masterminds. And so many times people are like, How would you invest$50,000 in a mastermind? How would you invest$100,000 in a mastermind? It's like, I don't look at the money. I look at who's in the group that I feel like is gonna understand me in the situation I'm in. And not only that can help me or will drag me to the finish line of what I want to be doing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. So I would say stop networking and start building your external nervous system.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

It isn't always about finding more leads or contacts, it's about consciously designing your environment, like you just said. It's about finding your people, the ones who will sit with you in the terrifying uncertainty of a launch week, or the ones who will call you on your bullshit when you're playing small.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Ones who will genuinely celebrate your win because they know the hell you walk through to get there.

SPEAKER_00:

Agreed.

SPEAKER_01:

Fighting the fight of life alone is not a sign of strength, it's a sign of a nervous system stuck in a trauma response. It's a belief that you are the only one you can rely on. Which is a belief that will cap your growth, your joy, and your impact. Guaranteed. So, really, the question isn't if you need a community. The question is what are you doing today to curate one?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I love that. Yeah. I love that.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's why we built IDW Epic.

SPEAKER_00:

It is. It's like, I hate to say it, but I want to compare it to for some reason dating apps. People get on there, you know, and it's like they'll invest so much time, so much energy to find this human to spend life with. Yet they won't start to shop in these ecosystems and really look and say, where is that tribe? And how priceless is that to me, to have that in my life to be fulfilled throughout my life. And in the dating app, no big deal. But in the business world, it's like, oh, well, forget that. You know, and so it's like, it's just a funny thing in dynamics, but I I caution you to not just look at ours, look at what fits you. What are you looking for? Who are the people showing up? Why are they showing up? Are they greedy or are they givers? Are they takers? What are they? What am I looking for? Just like you would look for in a partner or in a relationship, because that's what you're getting here. That's what you're gaining. And when you invest in it that way, miracles start to happen. All of a sudden, you have the love of a lifetime. You're not judging, you're not worried. You're like, I would have paid so much more for this, you know, because I needed this in my life.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, I could go on a little bit of a tangent here.

SPEAKER_00:

Do it.

SPEAKER_01:

I recently saw a post on Facebook, and the guy was like frustrated because he's dating on the dating apps. Yep. And he's like, why do women only want$200 dinners instead of like a coffee date? And some of the responses, like, one girl was like, Well, I went on 400 dates in three months and just did coffee, you know, like all of these things. And I found that fascinating. That's that's a long thing. But as we're sitting here talking about um our group and all the things and like how to find a community, I for some reason I was just comparing our daily accountability group as like a coffee date.

SPEAKER_00:

It is.

SPEAKER_01:

It's it's not super expensive. You jump in and you get to know people. It's a daily service system support group for badasses. It really is a relief lending library for the days you feel bankrupt.

SPEAKER_00:

It too.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, it's such an easy way to jump in, stay accountable, but get to know people.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it's a good way to get up in the morning and literally talk to somebody about what you're doing and hear what they're doing and go, oh my gosh, we're on the same path together. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know why that just popped in my head. I was like, huh, I could see that. And it was an interesting conversation there, what they were diving into. But the the point is like, you don't have to fight things alone. You know, if if it's not our program, find another one, find your people, find your tribe. Um, yeah, and then just go crush it.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's go. Set you and I are so excited about all the things we've built. I mean, you guys know it out there, but I'm just gonna be selfish right now because I've got the mic and tell you, you know, our daily masterminds are absolutely awesome. And if you'll show up for you, not with anything else, but to be a giver and to help other people, you will find a miracle in your life. Number two, we have an I Do Epic live event every year that changes people, like dramatically changes people's lives. Come to one of them. Yes, there's horses, yes, there's all that. But what we're really there for is to connect with each other, to see each other. Another thing is that we have our our Legions 1111, which is just a program to really get to know you. But as you get to know you, you're with a group of people learning to get to know themselves at the same time. So you get to see their struggles, you get to see your struggles, you get to see how they are literally connected, how we're really one together, fighting for, once again, regulation of our nervous systems. And then we have our styling program where you can literally learn how to build a new, attractive, magnetic person that is you step into that person and really grow from a different aspect, a different way, all these things. We've spent years curating this stuff to really help humanity and to help ourselves to be able to go to that next level. And we would love for you to be part of it. Love for you to share the message, love for all of us to grow together and all the wealth will come because we're in the community. We are rising together, we are helping each other.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, I love that. And I would say, like for us, the community and the curation of the community is like top of mind all the time. Absolutely. So, yeah.

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So, does that wrap it up for us? Well, awesome. Thank you guys for listening. And if you feel so inclined and you need a group like this, look, we don't care what level you're at, we don't care if you're in a nine to five, we don't care where you're at. Go to idoepic.com, get signed up, start out. But once again, don't do this for anybody else but you. And please come in as the giver that you are and that we know you are. Come in, give, participate, show up, and let Let the miracles start to work in your nervous system and in your life. This segment brought to you by I Do Epic.

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Bart Miller

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Sunny Miller

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