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A Belief You Don't Embody is Just a Wish in a Costume

• Bart and Sunny Miller • Season 1 • Episode 82

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What if the reason your life isn’t shifting - your relationships, income, influence, energy - isn’t because you don’t believe it can… but because your body doesn’t? 

In this episode, we explore why belief without embodiment keeps you stuck, frustrated, and repeating old patterns. You can affirm your worth, say the right things, and journal your future self until your pen runs dry... but if your nervous system hasn’t caught up? You’re not creating change, you’re performing hope. This is where manifestation - and your results in life - gets stuck.

We’re diving into what it really means to embody belief - how to move from mindset to identity, from wishful thinking to magnetic action. We’ll share powerful examples, break down how your ego and old programming sabotage your next level by trying to keep you "safe," and give you real ways to start aligning your energy, actions, and presence with the future you’re building. 

Light, honest, and packed with insight, this episode will shift the way you think about growth, embodiment, and the version of you that’s waiting to be lived.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to. We Play Full Out with Bart and Sunny Miller. Take it away, Sunny.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, bart. Today we are going to talk a little bit about beliefs.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But I think it's a little different than most people are going to expect. All right, well, I'm excited about it then, yeah, so we all carry beliefs about ourselves, right? Yeah, some of them we bury as far down as we can.

Speaker 2:

Those are the subconscious, maybe, or the ones we don't want to think about our face. Some we claim out loud Beliefs about what we're capable of, what we're worthy of, about what's possible in our lifetime. Some of those beliefs are obviously. They're old, they're hand-me-down stories dressed up as truths. Others are fresh and bright and they're full of promise and we probably love those they show up in vision boards, journal pages and softly spoken affirmation whispered just loud enough to convince ourselves. So far, so good.

Speaker 1:

So far, so good.

Speaker 2:

But there's a dangerous assumption we often make, oddly enough, and that is that belief alone is enough.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And it isn't, it's not Belief is a spark, yes, but it won't change your life until it becomes embodied truth. An embodiment does not live in your head. It lives in your nervous system, it lives in your energy and it lives in your identity. My favorite statement is a belief you don't embody, it's just a wish in a costume.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think there's a double-edged sword with embodying beliefs, obviously. So, I'm excited to see where we're going with this.

Speaker 2:

Do you want to talk about that first, or do you want me to just keep going?

Speaker 1:

No, I think you should keep going. You're probably going to cover it, so let's do it.

Speaker 2:

So you can believe you're magnetic, you can believe you're successful, you can believe you're loved, worthy, destined for more. But if your body still flinches a praise, if your nervous system tightens at the thought of raising your rates, if your voice quivers every time you set a boundary or tell the truth, you're not embodying the belief you might think you are, but your body's telling you different and your life will reflect that, no matter how many times you write it down in your planner or repeat it in the mirror, because belief lives in the mind, but embodiment lives in the body, and the body will always tell the truth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, and so I think you're dealing with if I'm understanding you correctly and from my research is you're dealing with two different, basically, systems One you're dealing with the mind, the other you're dealing with the body, and so a belief gets anchored in the mind but doesn't always anchor in the body.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think what I'm trying to say is it's not a full belief until it's anchored in both.

Speaker 1:

Exactly right. It has to be embedded in the body. But if the body's pinging because of the mind, then it's not embedded in the body, Correct, Yep? Or it's the body's telling you. I don't want that belief.

Speaker 2:

Exactly those are the hardest ones to.

Speaker 2:

I think, put into your system and that's where we're getting at. Okay, so this is the part most people skip, especially high performers, especially those of us who've been praised for our intellect, our planning and our grit. We're used to relying on cognition and we forget real change doesn't happen in the brain first, it happens in the body, and you know. This is the whole level. And I think the thing we forget about identity is that they do have to be aligned. You don't think your way into a new identity, you practice your way into one.

Speaker 2:

How many times have you heard like step into the person you want to become right, you move like that person, you breathe like them, you make decisions like them, you schedule your life like them until slowly, almost imperceptibly at first, your nervous system stops resisting the expansion and a lot of times I think like we've talked about this a lot, but our egos and our, our whole system is wired for survival, right? So if you start pushing on that of like no, I'm stepping into this. That's why we have body reactions. We have some time it's like no, no, you got to stay safe, you got to stay where you're at, you got to stay here, stay here and you'll be safe.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think there's a lot to that Also in the fact of just like I've watched I'm going to use a horse, for example, because sometimes that'll help. You can raise a hand to a certain horse and he will flinch and absolutely jump back and you're just like I just raised my hand. But because he was beaten when he was younger, as soon as you put a hand up, he thinks he's going to get beaten, and to get that out of a horse can take a really long time because the body anchored that that in so much that everybody's going to beat them is what they think. And so it's a very interesting things that I've worked with horses over the years to watch. Because there's another horse, you can walk up and shake your hands, dance around, do the whole thing, and they're all just like, hey, what's up, let me get in your space.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

And so no trigger, because the body doesn't have the reaction and I think that's a thing with humans too is is that they've had certain things happen, they've had certain things anchor in the body and then therefore, you know, it does have a way of manifesting it through its energy yeah, and you know, in order for that horse to have a belief that he's not going to be hit anymore, it takes a process it takes trust.

Speaker 2:

it takes like leaning into that um, which is what we need to do? Right, we've got to start signaling to our bodies that we're safe. Yep, so when your nervous system stops resisting, then your cells stop bracing for the fallback, just like the horse stops bracing for that hit your calendar and conversations begin to reflect a deeper inner certainty. Then it's no longer a concept but a lived reality, and again that's embodiment, and it cannot be, faked.

Speaker 2:

You cannot think your way into being confident, any more than you can intellectualize your way into being fit. Just as you can't read about strength training and expect your body to change, you cannot mentally download your next level identity and expect your reality to shift without effort and action. And I know I've heard this a lot, probably more recently because it took me a long time to actually understand the concept but a lot of people want to wait until they feel confident. Right, yeah, but you've just got to act.

Speaker 2:

You've got to act because the more you do it, the better you become at it. The more confident you become at it. You normalize it in your system.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and what's interesting in this part of what you're saying here is is that when I play pickleball, for example, I'll watch certain people play against me and they're like, like they can't hit shots, they can't do this, they can't do that Right, and they're like, oh my gosh, it's so frustrated. Then they'll get on my side and their confidence goes through the roof because they know that I'm not going to miss the shots. So they can. They can take more risk, they can do more stuff and they can be where they need to be because they're not stressed about the other player being there.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know if that's a really good example to try to articulate what I'm saying, but it's not. It's. It's because when you're with somebody, sometimes that you feel safe with, your nervous system can actually actually relax because you know you're in a safe space, right? So sometimes we have to actually be with others that allow our nervous systems or our systems to see what that feels like, to be confident, to be in that confidence, to do the stuff that we want to, and then all of a sudden, it'll lead to the other side.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like that I was just in my mind thinking about. Maybe I don't know if I can articulate this, but let's say, you know, I'm with a group of people and something really freaks me out or triggers me, but it does not trigger anybody else.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

I think after you know, whatever experience happens and I'm looking around, I'm going what the heck nobody else has triggered Then that kind of starts you down a path of, oh, maybe I don't need to be, and every time they're not it makes me feel safer and more you know, kind of the same concept.

Speaker 1:

Another good example.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like, yeah.

Speaker 1:

being around people can really help if they're, yeah, I think I think it's mandatory. In changing the body Me personally, I think that you've got to be around, because the body learns from other bodies and energetic systems of what that feels like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, we recently heard about someone who's been struggling with some pretty intense health challenges and, like many people in that position, they generally really want to get better. More than anything, they want to feel strong, clear and energized again. But each day their focus stays locked on the symptoms and then what's not working. Because of that, they often avoid the very things that could start moving them toward their healing. So they skip the walks, they decline to join breathwork, they opt out of going to the gym, not because they physically can't, but because they've told themselves they shouldn't or it will make their symptoms worse.

Speaker 2:

I want to be clear here. They are dealing with real symptoms Absolutely Fatigue, brain fog, tingling in the body, nausea, whatever it might be. Every time they pull back from taking a small supportive action they could take, they're reinforcing these messages to their body You're sick, you can't, like, don't, like, don't. And the body listens. So what this person needs isn't just a change in mindset, because, again, mind and body are both important. It's a shift in embodiment. They don't need to wait until they feel fully healthy to start acting like someone who is. They need to start signaling health now. Maybe they can't walk for 30 minutes, but five minutes Possible. Maybe they're not up for a full heavy lifting workout at the gym, but 10 minutes with light weights, that's within reach. Each of those small acts is a signal, and it's a message to the body.

Speaker 1:

We're healing, we're moving, we're healthy we're safe.

Speaker 2:

When you embody health in small, consistent ways, even while symptoms are present, you start to disrupt the pattern that keeps you in disease, because if nothing changes, nothing changes, and you know. You can take that analogy anywhere, like if you're struggling um, we've talked about this a little bit before, but let's say scarcity mindset and you can sit there all day and try to convince your mind that you're abundant or whatever, but go out to the park and hand $5 bills to people. You have to signal somehow in reality that this new belief that you're trying to take upon yourself is true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that it really is real. Yeah, and what's interesting too is is that as soon as you do that and your psyche goes along with it, it becomes natural to want to get there, and I think that's the awesome part about what you're talking about. So I love that and, like you said, you can take it into relationship. You know there's people I've been hurt, I've done it. It's like okay, it doesn't mean you quit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, just because the struggle's there, it doesn't mean you quit. You have to relook at what you're doing. How's this coming across?

Speaker 2:

What you know and then start to anchor the right things. Yeah, and I know, for a long time with my voice. Um, those of you don't know who, like, I've struggled with my voice for the last five years, as far as, like, starting to lose it and losing my singing voice and kind of my identity along with it. For the longest time it was like I can't sing, I can't sing, I can't sing. But then I walk around the house all day singing. Does it sound good? No, but finally I had to be like no, I am singing, I can sing, I am singing.

Speaker 1:

And what's even more crazy is it sounds great to a lot of us, even though she says that it sounds good, but see in her mind it doesn't sound great, and that's not always reality.

Speaker 2:

But it is important to take that shift. You know like sometimes our son, you know, he says I can't breathe, I can't breathe, I can't breathe. I'm like you're alive, dude, You're breathing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Start saying I can breathe, I am breathing, but there's just these things. We get kind of hooked on and into these mental loops and our bodies and our minds are all messed up with each other. We just need to get them in alignment, so good. So it's not about thinking positively, it's literally about installing new code where it actually matters, which is at the level of your identity, your energy and your daily actions. Got to take those actions because that's where reality is right. When you embody a new truth, when your system starts to accept it not just as a possibility but as a new baseline, reality reorganizes around you, not because of magic, but because it has no choice. It has to. Embodiment sends out signals that cannot be misunderstood. Right, We've talked about this. Shows up in the way you walk into the room.

Speaker 2:

Yep like I know as soon as you walk into a room what kind of mood you're in. You don't have to like the energy is there, yeah, the embodiment is there. It's the way you say no without guilt, like if somebody can tell you feel guilty, they know.

Speaker 1:

They do.

Speaker 2:

Your body knows Yep, it's in the clarity of your pricing. If you're an entrepreneur or a business owner, it's in the clarity of your pricing. If you're an entrepreneur or a business owner, it's in the cadence of your marketing, in the way you stop apologizing for taking up space, and that's when belief gets traction and when manifestation becomes momentum. So, talking about manifestation, I think where a lot of people kind of get off the mark is their minds are telling them what they want, but their bodies are saying something different. Yep, this is where embodiment is crucial.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, once again we see this with animals. I can watch somebody that says I want to ride a horse and I'm like that's great. But when they get there with the horse, they're so nervous and they're so scared that their body signals to the horse that I am nervous, I am scared. The horse picks up on that and then the horse gets nervous and scared. Right, it's a. It's a fascinating thing of what it has. It transfers all over the place. If I walk up and there's a mean looking dog and I think it's a mean looking dog, even if that dog is the nicest dog on planet earth what am I putting off to that dog? And that energy? Right.

Speaker 2:

It's a frequency right.

Speaker 1:

Frequency, and it's an energy and it's a belief that I'm saying to myself. That dog is X Y, Z. Therefore, this is going to be the outcome, you know so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yep. So if you've ever found yourself wondering why things feel stuck, why you know what to do but can't seem to make it stick just like the example you just gave, like I really, really, really want to ride a horse, but then my body's freaked out Ask yourself this are you living your beliefs or just dressing them up and hoping the world buys it? Again, it's not a character flaw, like we all do it, but it's a nervous system pattern and it's one that you can change. It's a nervous system pattern and it's one that you can change, but not with another course or another vision board or another motivational playlist. You change it by acting as if your belief is already true and then doing it again tomorrow and again the day after that, until your entire system your mind, body and soul gets the memo. That's how embodiment works and that's how identity shifts.

Speaker 1:

Any other thoughts from you, nope.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Well, that's how you stop being the person who believes in big things and start being the one who becomes them.

Speaker 1:

So good, yeah, let's go. Let's start one day at a time, right of looking at our beliefs, looking at our body, looking at what our body is telling us, how it's reacting to it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know, that just made me think, um, our, it's almost like you need daily evidence, right? So it's like if I'm stepping into, maybe the identity of somebody who's more patient, you know, just having 1% better patience is proof that that's who I'm becoming. Like if I'm somebody that works out, even if I just do it for five minutes, that's proof that that's who I'm becoming. I mean, they don't have to be big life-changing. In fact, it's more difficult if they're big life-changing, altering things. It's like what's 1% and focus on that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely so good, so good so we on to life updates.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we are.

Speaker 1:

All right. So I got a question for you on beliefs and identity. Are they the same?

Speaker 2:

A belief and an identity. I'm trying to think really fast on my feet, right off. I'm saying yes because what you believe is kind of your identity right, is it? Where are you going with this?

Speaker 1:

Well, I just am wondering because, as we talk through this kind of stuff, I used to have a lot of beliefs that I believed in really heavily that now I don't believe are true. Don't believe are true. And yes, at the time they could have been my identity, but were they really my identity, or did I have to create a new identity and step into new beliefs? I know this is a, you know, a different kind of, but, like I think our beliefs, um, sometimes we can have beliefs but not have them be our entire identity.

Speaker 2:

If that makes sense you think of an example of that identity, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Can you think of an example of that? Yeah, so let's say that my identity is that I'm an athlete. My belief can be that I'm a pickleball player which they're both but I can be an athlete in multiple things and still have a belief that I'm just a pickleball player. Is that true? False.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I'm playing with the concepts in my head of labels versus beliefs too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So if you have a belief that you're, let's just say for us that you're LDS Latter-day Saint. Is that your identity or is that a belief?

Speaker 2:

I think it might depend on the level of belief that you have, because when we were in the church it was my identity but it wasn't yours.

Speaker 1:

Right, I understood the beliefs and I even believe some of the beliefs, but it most definitely wasn't my identity.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it may depend on the level of the anchoring inside of you. Maybe there, because I think there's different levels of beliefs. I think there's foundational ones that you build everything on top of, and then maybe there's some that's not something you build on top of.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so like as I, as I create a new identity, what I'm looking at is what is that person's identity? What do they believe in, what are they structure, Right, and some of those things I want to take and the other ones. I don't create my new identity, but in in creating identities for me, I don't think you have to always take on all the beliefs. So like, just cause I'm a pickleball player doesn't mean I have to be like. Just because I'm a pickleball player doesn't mean I have to be religious. Or just because I'm a pickleball player, I don't have to play tennis. Or just because I'm a pickleball player doesn't. But other people may believe you need to done a racket sport to be a pickleball player. But I don't know that. That's even though the identity of a pickleball player is different than the beliefs of some of the pickleball players. I don't know, Maybe I'm getting too far off.

Speaker 2:

No, I love it and I think that's a fun thing about creating your own identity is you really get to pick and choose?

Speaker 1:

Your beliefs exactly.

Speaker 2:

You get to choose your pathway and how you do what you want to do in the identity that you're creating, and it is easy to get hung up sometimes on other people's belief systems and structures, but that's where self-awareness and like really consciously designing your life comes into, where Hmm is that true Right? I don't know if that has to be true for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, well, I love it. I'm so glad you put time into this and we got to discuss it and talk about some different things of you know, beliefs versus identity, and I think that beliefs are awesome because they, they, they, they can change the world. At the same time, some of the beliefs become labels, not just a belief, and I think that's where you can get into a sort of and I'll get into that more if somebody wants- to talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean we've been kind of I don't know. I was thinking about that a little this week because I do think labels we can take on as good things if we want to look at them as good obviously. But when we anchor anything, I think, is when we start to leak power. That's where we got to be really careful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think all these terms have certain things that have power to them and I think a lot of them mean a lot of the same things, and that's what I'm trying to make sure we kind of discuss Belief, identity, label. All those things really have similarities in so many different ways as you speak around them. So, yeah, I'm excited about.

Speaker 2:

And for me, like this embodiment piece is so key because it's like how many affirmations I've written in notebooks, how many times have I written stuff on my mirror, how many times have I done all of these things? But it's like, oh, I needed to take some action, no matter how small it was, to start signaling to my body that this is what I'm embodying now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2:

Like you can't leave that piece out. Well, maybe it would take a lot longer and you'd be fighting it the whole way and that is not an easy battle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a lot of that. There's a lot there, a lot to digest in this. So excited about that. So let's go into life updates.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so we have two new amazing creations sitting on our countertop.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I know this might sound like a light thing to some people, but anytime we bring something physical into reality, wow yeah, so cool, it is so cool. So we have two new books. One is our magnetic intensive number one book.

Speaker 1:

Which, if you guys don't know what that is, that is how to create a new identity and then create that identity to where you can actually use it within your business or within your marriage, or use it however you want, step into it. So think about and we've talked about it a lot Marilyn Monroe versus Norma Jean two different identities but yet accomplish separate things in her life, and there's multiple people like that. So that's what magnetic does. It also goes through the even style portion of how that person looks, how they feel, all that kind of stuff, how to use clothing, how to use certain items to anchor that new identity. So you can step into that superpower and put that cape on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and again, because we are so passionate about identity, as you can tell, we do go into a lot of embodiment in this, like you can't leave it behind. It's all about embodying that new person and finding your calling is part of that Unlocking the version of yourself and stepping into the calling you are here to create and do that's right, so good.

Speaker 1:

And then the new book is.

Speaker 2:

It is our North Star Codex for our. We Play Full Out 1111 Life Mastery Experience. That's a lot to say, but it is so cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's teaching you everything that we're talking about here how to play full out in life.

Speaker 2:

Every area of your life, not just one.

Speaker 1:

That's right. So that really is sitting down, really going through your identity. That's why, obviously magnetic, going through your identity, your beliefs, your spiritual beliefs, your everything you can ever imagine, and then breaking them down in 11 different categories, from health, emotion, family, relationship, all these different things, and then structurally going through that and architecting your life the way you want to live it and then coming out the other end and going out there to the world and showing up the way that you've always dreamed of showing up and really finding your why, your passion, the real core thing.

Speaker 1:

So we've had everybody out there doing all their profile stuff, all their astrology, all their things.

Speaker 2:

They're bringing it all here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, human design they're bringing it all here, starting on Sunday. Design they're bringing it all here starting on Sunday. And we're going to go through this codex with them and really try to show them how who they are today has probably been a manipulation from where they really were and who they were really born to be, and give them some enlightenment around that so that they might be able to step back and go, whoa, holy cow, I've been manipulated and that's why I feel like crap, that's why this isn't working, that's why this, and give them some real aha moments. And I'm here to tell you that I am so proud of these individuals because you, as the listener, are probably sitting there saying whoa, but it's. You know what this takes when you work on yourself and I don't want to call it work, but self mastery is a big deal and it it takes energy, it takes time and people just don't necessarily want to do it. They want the easy fix, you know, and yet we're going to do it.

Speaker 2:

We're going to do it, and we're going to do it with a group of people who are ready for it.

Speaker 1:

Ready. They're hungry for it.

Speaker 2:

They're so hungry for it. And again, we talked about this a little earlier. But when you do things as a collective, there is power there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's right. So I'm super excited about this and super excited about everything, and if you want to look at manipulation, there's a lot of stuff that you can go and actually look at. In fact, last night I was watching the diary of the CEO again and I was watching three individuals talk about nuclear war and the percentage of when we could have a nuclear war and what could happen, and as they debated this it was so interesting how much they talked about. One of them was a past spy for the, for the military, and, uh, his whole job was to figure out how to manipulate certain groups of people to believe what they were doing was the right thing so that they could actually get the outcome they wanted as a spy. So they would go in and hire certain groups of people to post certain social things, do this, do that and get a movement moving that would allow them to anchor enough people that they could manipulate whole group of people so that they could get the outcome that they needed to in a country.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you kind of see that in today's world once in a while it was so fascinating, like.

Speaker 1:

And then they broke down what's going on in our world and how these things have happened. And then there was a lady in there. She's a she really brilliant woman and she writes about all this stuff. But the cool part that she gets access to is all these elite people in the nuclear world that don't get a voice, and so when something comes out right, so hey, president, trump did XYZ behind XYZ's back. This person told him to do this, he defied him in front of their face and did this.

Speaker 1:

She's the one that takes all that data and says those who write history are the ones that are in charge. But let me show you what history would have been written had people had known about this conversation, this conversation, this conversation that they weren't privy to. And now, when Trump delivers this information, this group wants to make him look like this tyrant when this has happened. And I'm not, once again, let me just be very clear. I this tyrant when this has happened, and I'm not. Once again, let me just be very clear. I'm not saying Trump's right wrong, I'm not endorsing him. I'm just showing you manipulation in a system that just happened that I was watching this diary of the CEO and you can go watch exactly what I'm talking about. So just so we're clear on this scenario I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:

But my point is she's like she reset the tone because these two guys were going at this like in a different way. And she goes can I just give you a few insights? Here's this, here's this. And all of a sudden they're both like wow, wow, that's crazy, you know, and uh, so it's fascinating to look at all those kind of things in not just that sector, but in every sector. This is happening and us as humans have to try to figure all this out right. And so it's very, very important to what you're talking about here, sonny, is what is our body made for and how is it a guard to help us understand this stuff, then our minds and our psyche to be able to process right, yeah, and understand ourselves better in these patterns and stories and beliefs we've inherited as well.

Speaker 2:

And you know we've talked about history a little bit before. In fact, just the other day I was saying you know, the people who write history are the ones who won. That's right, like there's so much there we don't know and don't understand, and we're basing our belief systems off of this history that we think happened the way it happens Right. You were telling me the other day about a guy who started his own religion.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, this was a fascinating thing.

Speaker 2:

I mean not to go off on a tangent on manipulation, but this is fascinating.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, there was this. There's this guy. I watched this thing and he's like I, he was a bum. And so he got this harebrained idea that he just wanted to see if he could just become a prophet. And so he did and started telling people he was, and he got this following and people were giving him money doing all these things. And then he finally was like I'm just going to tell the world that I'm, I was just a bum. I just wanted to see if this was possible. And he did.

Speaker 1:

And I mean, they're all just like they wanted him to be. They're like no, you're a prophet. And then some of them were like you're a, you're a tyrant for doing this. How dare you manipulate us? You know, but he had both worlds, which was super interesting, but just by what he did he was able to accomplish that because he said he's mine too. I'm just going to be a prophet. What have I got to lose? I'm just going to go out and start saying I'm a prophet and start doing this thing and being prophetic, and you know so interesting, right, but like well, you saw, you know.

Speaker 1:

I mean, let's just be clear Like this. This guy was on that that mind show that we watched and he's got a big ass camera. He looks like a reporter, he's got all the things.

Speaker 2:

He's at a very busy mall.

Speaker 1:

He's got everything there, so when people would walk up to him, he'd make these outlandish things that are like oh yeah, I want to comment on this and I saw this and I know this is going on and totally fake, Right.

Speaker 1:

And then the same dude shows up in a regular pair of clothes and, you know, does the exact same thing and nobody wants to talk to him. But I mean manipulation upon manipulation and that is the exact same thing. This dude just stepped into it, stepped into the role with certainty, started doing the thing Everybody's like yep, let's go you know yeah.

Speaker 2:

So a new, a new phrase that.

Speaker 1:

I've kind of come up with that I really love is psychologically groomed, yeah, so good, right, we've been psychologically groomed in so many different ways.

Speaker 2:

For example, you know, you see the guy. He's in his three piece suit we are psychologically groomed to assume he's an authority figure and he's legitimate. You know so many things we can spend so much time unpacking and ways that we've been groomed to believe certain things just because of appearance or status or power or whatever it might be.

Speaker 1:

So true? Yeah, well, good. Thank you for letting me go on another rant.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, other life updates. I'm trying to think, but Xander is going to start a podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Our son. He's 15. It's going to be called what's Next with Xander Miller. So good, and his whole premise is as a freshman in high school, he's just going into his sophomore year. What does he want to do with his life? Should he go to college? Should he go to trade school? Should he, you know, what should he do? So he is going to interview probably a lot of our entrepreneurial friends and business owners and maybe just other people to see did they go to college, did they not? What do they regret? What did they love? What would they do again? Would they send their kids to college, like all the things? So it'll be for both kids and parents. And if you are an entrepreneur or a business owner and want to be on that podcast, let us know, because he's just launching it. He's been practicing with Bart. Yeah, he's been getting his questions dialed in and his interview style and it's been really cool to see.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's played some pickleball. Mercedes has got her booth ready. She's going to be in a farmer's market here. So we have two of our daughters doing farmer's market.

Speaker 1:

Just love to see the entrepreneurial side of our family coming out, which is beautiful.

Speaker 1:

We've been planning our trip, like we said, we got people coming into town, so we've been setting up an event center and just a lot of cool things happening right now in the world. We're super stoked, super excited, so grateful for you, the listener, and I know some of you listen to every episode. Thank you, if you feel empowered enough, please share whichever episode that you like. Let's get this thing growing, let's get it on fire, because we need to play full out with the world, and I just want you to know that Sonny and I are playing full out. We are challenging each other in ways that are absolutely probably mind boggling to some humans, if they really knew, but we always look at each other and say, why not? And we really just try to just be so open minded in looking at things and, you know, just exploring stuff, so that we can stay true to our word of we play full out. So excited for you as followers and I hope you stay along for the journey. So this segment brought to you by, I do epic.

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