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The Moment I Realized I Had Abandoned My Body

• Bart and Sunny Miller • Season 1 • Episode 81

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Have you ever looked back on a beautiful moment only to realize you weren’t fully in it when it happened? This week, Sunny and Bart crack open a raw conversation about something most of us never realize we’ve lost until it’s gone: our connection to our own bodies.

From a quiet smile on a walk to watching their granddaughter move with unfiltered joy, Sunny shares the moment she realized how far she'd drifted from her own sensations, and how common that disconnection really is in today’s world. Together, they explore why we’ve been conditioned to override our instincts, numb our emotions, and even fear our own breath… and how to reclaim the body as the most powerful truth-telling device we have.

They dive into insights from Dr. Gabor Maté, what breathwork is unlocking for them, and 10 gentle ways to start listening to your body again—so you can feel more, trust more, and live more fully alive.

Whether you're an entrepreneur, a parent, or just someone longing to feel like yourself again, this episode is a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 1:

welcome to we play full out with bart and sunny miller.

Speaker 2:

Take it away, sunny the other day I caught myself smiling, not because someone made a joke or anything big actually happened, in fact. I was out walking alone in nature. But for the first time in a long time, I just noticed and I was simply smiling, which meant that in that moment, doing what I was doing, my body was letting me know, my soul was enjoying it and my mind was clocking. The response Wow. That might sound weird, kind of or like a small thing, but it was a big epiphany for me because for the past little while I have had the uncomfortable realization that I have become quite disconnected from my body.

Speaker 1:

I know the feeling.

Speaker 2:

I just have not been listening to it.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome.

Speaker 2:

So, bart, what's your relationship with your body these days?

Speaker 1:

And be honest, Well, until breathwork and deep breathwork sessions I haven't. I thought I was more in tune with my body than I really am, and the more I've done breath work, I mean it is just man, it has woke my body up Like I mean, it's like a I don't know firecracker went off, like it's crazy how much energy that my body has and I feel in my overall energetic body.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing. I think we're going to talk about that a little while later also. So sweet, we're going to go into that. What do you think disconnection from our bodies costs us, in both business and marriage? Or either, or.

Speaker 1:

Well, I know for a fact that our bodies are like an antenna, right, so the antenna waves that are out there are not energetically aligned if we're not energetically aligned with our bodies.

Speaker 1:

Right. And so much of us we think we're connected to our body, but reality is we're not totally connected to our body and our energetic system just really isn't running. And when that happens, then I think it repels a lot because we were so drained and trying to figure out how to get energy to our body that we're not paying attention to what our body's allowing us to do. And so I think I think there's a lot of that also in our relationships. We we hide a lot of times when we're not energetically aligned, and so we end up and when I mean energetically aligned, that could even be like shame around our body, discomfort with our body, things that we we don't like about our body. That instantly is telling our body this and it's putting off an energetic signal to our significant other and those other people around us. So it's very, very, very important to get connected to your body and then to your energetic system in your body.

Speaker 2:

I love that. So we have a little almost nine month old granddaughter around and I feel like she's really opened my eyes like this little cutie pie ball of energy is becoming one of my greatest teachers, because I watch her and she rubs her eyes and I know she's tired, yeah, and she is going to take a nap yeah um, she cries when she's hungry.

Speaker 2:

She squirms and vocalizes her needs when she's done with her environment and wants to move. There's no doubt, like you just said, she's feeling off the charts joy and massive life force energy. When she smiles, laughs, jumps up and down and gets to dive into a new toy. I feel like she just feels, expresses and listens with such presence, curiosity, joy or demands that it is absolutely refreshing to see.

Speaker 1:

It really is. I was playing with her today and I had this big box and stuff like that and she was kind of getting a little bit like I don't know, like she was a little overwhelmed and she was with her great grandmother and so I grabbed her and I just set her on this box and her focus and her intensity of just instant switch was just whoa like locked on, ready for everything, new senses, knew everything running and was like let's go and she kind of starts babbling, I guess happily, like, oh yeah, I'm into this, right, yeah it was like there was no question.

Speaker 1:

But if she doesn't like something, I mean it's like an instant, no questions asked, but if she doesn't, like something. I mean, it's like an instant I'm out, no questions asked. I'm out, don't ask me why, Just I'm out, let's go, you know, and I think that's really really cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she doesn't second guess it, try to override it or even apologize for it. So your body is not just a physical vessel, it's a masterpiece of the most sacred technology you will ever own. It's capable of healing, sensing, creating and guiding you home to yourself, and it's also your most honest relationship, really Doesn't lie, doesn't flatter you or edit itself, to be polite, so true. So, hearing all that, why do you think we lose that kind of body wisdom as we get older, like from Lila to here? How do we lose our body wisdom and stop listening to it, like what happens between toddlerhood and adulthood? That just makes us stop listening.

Speaker 1:

I think it's the same exact thing. That happens overall in life is and I know this is going to sound crazy and I'm not sure exactly how to explain this to you, so I'm going to try to make it make sense but I was listening to Wayne Dyer many, many years ago and he brought this analogy up of the baby versus the adult. And what happens as a baby is is that we know beyond anything that we're going to be taken care of as a baby, right? And then what happens as an adult is we find what's called independence, so we start to be able to do things for ourself, and therefore what we do is what he called edge got out, which is ego. We get an ego that gets involved and we think we're smarter than our body or the intelligence or the things that we have capable at our fingertips, and so, therefore, we take charge. Instead of letting our our inner knowing, our bodies, be in charge, we override it, and then what happens is is we have malfunctions. So it's like taking a computer that has no virus, no, nothing, and then, all of a sudden, we take charge. We know how to, we know how to operate the software better. We know this is going to be better. Somebody told us this hack was going to be better, but we knew better. And then all of a sudden we find out we didn't, but we don't know how to fix it. So therefore we just keep going on with the problem, and then that problem gets bigger and bigger and then all of a sudden we're so overwhelmed with it that we don't, we don't even know what to do. So I think that's kind of the analogy I would use is we think that we know best when we get older, when we have all the super intelligence in us allowing us and teaching us and we get on.

Speaker 1:

And we get older, when we have all the super intelligence in us allowing us and teaching us, and we get. Is it unintuned? It's like a guitar. We get out of tune. So therefore we're playing in a wrong key, not even realizing we're doing it. We get so comfortable in that that we still don't realize it. And then it gets worse and worse, but we don't pay attention to it. And then all of a sudden, a master walks in and says do you realize how out of tune you are? And you go I'm not. It's you that's out of tune. It's you that's causing me the problems. It's you that's getting in the way of what I'm trying to do. Uh, and I see that a lot, but I think it's the. It's like we get conditioned.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we get conditioned. That's actually a good segue, because I was also thinking like we lose curiosity, like a box that Lila gets put on is so brand new, she's so focused, so locked in, so present, and we get so used to our day-to-day lives. We've seen a bird, so we're not interested anymore. Seen a tree, so we're not interested anymore. We don't stay curious of like, oh, I haven't seen that bird, haven't seen that tree, like what's there that I haven't seen? And then another one is maybe we're not even thinking that we know best, maybe we're just so busy. You know, like I'm hungry, but instead of listening to my body what it wants, what it needs, or even maybe trying to go the next level with my body, I'm like, oh, there's something fast and easy, I'm just going to grab and go. Yeah, you know so I think there's like lots of different variables to why we don't listen.

Speaker 2:

Um, so there's this paraphrased quote that I love. It's if you want to learn what someone believes about themselves, don't ask them, ask their body. That quote always hits me because it's so true, right? We say all the right things, we journal about our self-worth. We're even like, hey, I'm going to step into this, I'm going to do better. I'm going to you know like I'm right there, but our bodies tell the real story. Have you ever had a moment you can think of where your body was trying to tell you something before your mind caught up?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I was playing in a pickleball match and my body told me that my, my, my, uh, one of my muscles was just gonna like it was. It was there and I was like Nope, I've got this, I'm fine. And then it was like bam, there it was. And, uh, I remember that moment, that moment so vividly, because my body literally was like do not hit this next ball. And I, my mind, was like I know best you're fine.

Speaker 1:

And then bam, all of a sudden, I was like not fine, pause a moment. Oh geez, what did I do? And, uh, that was an interesting aha moment for me, you know. Um, yeah, so that that would be one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and for me I go back to my smiling example. My body was trying to tell me that I was enjoying myself, and my mind actually had to catch up to that which is so strange.

Speaker 1:

It's so amazing. Our bodies are so interesting in a way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so our bodies tell the real story, because our deepest beliefs are not in our words, they're in our posture, our nervous systems and our automatic reactions. I love those automatic reactions. So if your shoulders are always tense, like what are you bracing for? If your jaw is clenched, what are you holding back? If your voice gets small, who told you it was safer not to be heard, like all of these clues and signals? If your chest collapses inward, when did you learn to make yourself smaller? Your body remembers the moments your mind tried, maybe even successfully, to forget. It holds the truth of how safe or unsafe it feels to be you, even when your mind says I'm fine. Your body might be whispering I'm not. Your mind might lie to you, but your body never will. Isn't that freaking amazing?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2:

Do you ever notice how your body reacts when something's true you might not have the words for it yet, kind of like we were just talking about tuning and guitar but you feel that kind of click or resonance. And on the flip guitar, but you feel that kind of click or resonance and on the flip side. Have you ever caught yourself saying something? And immediately you feel like that dissonance in your body, like nope, that's not it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So what happens to me is, all of a sudden, I'll get goosebumps, or all of a sudden I'll kind of just feel like this energetic through my body. That's just like whoa, what is going on here. But that, that is, that's truth. I like that and, uh, I, I. I think that I've ignored that a lot in my life and now that I'm getting more and more in tune with it, it's like wow, I just love that my body is communicating and allowing me to be along the, allowing me to be on the journey with it, versus the other way around.

Speaker 2:

So when you say ignore, you feel like maybe you noticed it before, but just didn't give it enough.

Speaker 1:

I know I have and I've ignored it and I've done other things that I'm just like, nah, it'll be fine, and a lot of people will say that's intuition or your gut feeling. But even if it is your gut feeling, what is your gut? It's your body and it really is your body giving you that answer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and what I found fascinating we worked with a gentleman named Dr Roberts for a while and what I found fascinating with him he talks about like feeling like a ping in your body of just like not resonance, it's more dis-ease or dis-resonance in your body. And what's fascinating is it's actually when you're saying words that, like maybe you want to believe, like if you sit and say I love myself, you can actually feel if that's not true, inside of you there's just something that won't click into place. And it's when you say these like positive words of affirmation, that you're like whoa, I thought that I was worthy. I felt like you know, I am a loved person or I'm this or that, and you actually feel that.

Speaker 1:

Well, he did this in front of a group of 15 people with us and he talked about money and he ran this exercise and it was stunning to me, Um, how everybody's like, yeah, I love money. And then all of a sudden he went through an exercise with them and it was like whoa, I thought I loved money, but I'm feeling like so much inside of me.

Speaker 2:

And it was a really cool exercise and it really is a simple like saying that statement and feeling how your body feels about it 100%.

Speaker 2:

And I do feel like when I hear things that I, I I like the word truth and I don't like the word truth because I feel like things are quite subjective and it's really hard for one person to have all truth right. But when I feel like things maybe that are true for me, I do almost feel like a click in place, like it's hard to describe, but it's like everything's in alignment with my body 100%, which is amazing, but it's subtle. It is Like you said, you've got to pay attention to it and I think the more you pay attention to it, the more you start to recognize it and it becomes quicker and easier to follow those signals. So why do we stop listening and start disrespecting this incredible instrument of our humanity so much, and why have we become so afraid of ourselves?

Speaker 1:

no-transcript. Then all of a sudden, we get a paper cut and it's like, oh my God, like that thing hurts and it's just so tiny, it's so small. Then we pay attention. We want to pay attention to our bodies after we feel pain, after we do these things, instead of paying attention to our body before that. And I think that's where we need a reminder of wait a minute, you're doing this more frequently than you are, so your body's pinging you, but you're not paying attention.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's so true. So when someone says to you, Bart, like, listen to your body, what does that actually look like for?

Speaker 1:

you Be still with myself, be present with myself.

Speaker 2:

Are you closing your eyes? Are you breathing?

Speaker 1:

Are you just?

Speaker 2:

sitting there with your eyes open, listening. Great question what are you doing?

Speaker 1:

So maybe you're in the shower? Yeah, for me it really is no matter where I'm at, it's just being still not letting any distractions just be present.

Speaker 1:

And then you know, you and I go through an exercise for couples. That is really cool, but it's like what do I feel right now? Can I, can I feel windy? Can I feel? Um, there's just what, what, what, what. What am I feeling on my body? How's my body really feeling right now?

Speaker 1:

And when I start to do that, it starts to bring awareness to my body, and I used to not take that. Just no matter if my eyes are open. If I do it right now and I go okay, what am I feeling on my feet? Am I sitting in this chair? What's the fabric feel like on my body? What does the wind feel like on my body? Because the wind's blowing in here right now? What does you know? All those things. All of a sudden, I'm hyper aware of my body and that makes me present to think about the thing that I really want to get the answer with with my body. Versus just going about and then never tuning in or checking in with my body, I'm now being more aware of oh, take a minute, check in with your body, see how it feels and then take action.

Speaker 2:

It just reminded me of like a relationship, right? Like if you were just to go about your day, never check in with me, never see how I'm doing, never like even really care that I'm there. You know, then I'm just a shadow partner and that's kind of what we do to our bodies, Right?

Speaker 1:

Exactly Right, good analogy.

Speaker 2:

And then you know you're not listening to me because I'm not there.

Speaker 1:

Right. Yeah, I want to say that you matter, yeah, but yeah, you're not showing me that you do Right, but I do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so good. Okay, we've been talking about this a lot lately, especially since you started leading us through breathwork each night. Now, when you first invited me, I'll be honest, I felt a little resistance. And you know, I've been invited to some breathwork sessions, like at our events or this or that or the other, and I'm like I'm not really sure I want to do that, but I see other people doing the same thing. Yeah, why do you think breathwork brings up resistance in so many people? Like I have my own ideas, but I want to hear yours.

Speaker 1:

My number one is it's called work.

Speaker 2:

I mean who?

Speaker 1:

wants to do work. I mean so to me. I want to rename it so badly because you know it, it really it. It has a stigma around work for some reason. Yeah, it really it has a stigma around work for some reason, and it's such an awareness factor that allows us to be in tune and to just explore what our body's capable of. Now I think a lot of things go. It's just like if I were to ask you to go run five miles with me today, you might have some resistance because you haven't been like. It's like oh no. I know it's going to take energy. I know it's going to be't been like. It's like oh no.

Speaker 2:

I know it's going to take energy. I know it's going to be hard. It's going to be all these things.

Speaker 1:

Right. But if we, if I was to say, hey, let's just take baby steps at this, let's work ourselves up, then it wouldn't be that way and I think starting anything or looking at something that is going to push our bodies, our, our minds overrule, even though it's good for our body, if that makes sense. And so we just don't do it because it's like, oh my gosh, this is, this is going to take some energy, um, and not looking at it as this is going to gain the energy, actually, this is going to make me feel better. Oh my gosh, this is going to allow trauma, this, that the other, to go like escape from me because of the way it's named, the way it's positioned, the way it's postured.

Speaker 1:

You know, but we breathe every single fricking day, all day long, and it is like if you stop breathing, you're dead. It's vital. Yet we call it breath work. I don't find it hard to breathe every day. I mean, some people do, let's be clear. Yeah for sure, but I don't. And so it's like why am I not taking advantage of this? And why am I calling this work, when it's like full on bliss and pleasure for me?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I think, aside from the work thing, people seem to be afraid of it. They are like, I think they're afraid it's going to be too much for them, or that they're going to, like, get out of control somehow. Maybe they'll shut down, maybe they'll stop breathing, maybe they'll lose consciousness. They don't know what to do with this energy that's suddenly coming from them. It's like this unknown thing and that is so scary for them for some reason. Yeah, right now. Obviously, like you said, if there's health conditions or breathing dysfunctions involved, that's understandable, but if not, like if you stop to think about it, there's something going on deeper there, your psyche. Why are we afraid of our own bodies and what they're capable of? Yeah, you know, it's just breathing, yep.

Speaker 1:

Yep, and you find this in dark caves. You find it in all sorts of things, right, like sitting in a cave by yourself alone scares the crap out of people. Yeah, because they're so afraid to be with themselves.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's a funny thing with the human. Why are we so scared of who we are and what, what we are and what we're created for?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and why are we terrified over something as simple and sacred as breath? Yep, and you know, like is it? Because if we slow down long enough to breathe, we might feel something maybe unlock something. We might finally hear the grief, the rage, the trauma, the longing, the desire that all those things we buried just to survive. We might find those parts and pieces of us that need our attention so we can be whole for sure. Or maybe it will show us how powerful we are and we're afraid of that. It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1:

It is.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it's unlocking so much for both of us. But from your perspective, do you think people are more afraid of their pain or their power?

Speaker 1:

Well, I would say pain, because I believe personally that most people want to think they're powerful, but they don't allow themselves to believe that they're powerful. So they say, yeah, I'm powerful, yeah, but they really don't believe.

Speaker 2:

And you think that's the pain aspect of it.

Speaker 1:

I think the pain is greater. I think the pain of like um, so it's like pain versus pleasure, right, we always avoid pain. If we knew we were great, we do all that kind of things, then you know it would just be anyway. I don't know how to totally describe it, but I'm saying that what, what we avoid the most is pain, and what we want to release is pain, but yet we avoid the, the way and the methodology sometimes to release it and get rid of it. Because if we do, then we didn't have the pain. Then what would happen? Which sounds really crazy, but honestly, I think it's not as crazy as we think it is we. So if you've lived with a pain your whole life, right, you get to where, once again, you're used to it you're addicted, it becomes your identity.

Speaker 1:

It's an addiction. That is the exact term, and we're addicted to our addictions so much that fixing them sometimes is like then what?

Speaker 2:

well, and in that regard too, like I know, we've talked about this in the past, um, from my own personal perspective, but sometimes it's like it gives you an escape not to show up for life, if you kind of have a pain that's holding you back yeah but that could be because you're scared of stepping into something. It could be scared because you may be powerful.

Speaker 1:

It could be all these other reasons, but there's just like you hold on to that and want to hold on to that, even though you don't think you do. So which one do?

Speaker 2:

you think it's pain. I don't know. I go back and forth because I do hear some people talk and I feel like they are actually more afraid of their power, but then you hear somebody who maybe has been through a great deal of trauma and they don't want to touch that pain. They want to stay away from it like crazy. So I think it might depend on the person. Yeah, maybe the majority is more towards the pain, though yeah what's the?

Speaker 2:

you kind of mentioned this earlier, but what's the biggest shift you have experienced since we started doing breath work nightly?

Speaker 1:

well, uh, being in touch with my body and how much stronger my energy is getting, I mean like it's. And when I mean energy, it's like I can feel my magnetic field and my energy being stronger to where it's like I just walk in and I'm just like wow, my energy is just radiating.

Speaker 2:

And so to me that's been Like you're plugged into a light socket, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It feels like I just got power in there and it's just, it's a great feeling that runs through my body and my circuitry that I haven't had for a long time. Yeah, and then also it's really, um, it's really helped me. I know this sounds crazy, but to breathe better and to appreciate my breath at a level I've not ever appreciated. I'm breathing deeper, I'm breathing with more intention and I'm breathing because I want life more.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like I hunger for life.

Speaker 1:

It's like it's a thirst for water. Now it's like, oh, I can't get enough, like I just like it's. The endorphins are going off Crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I find that even I went out for a walk yesterday and I'm not really thinking about breath work or anything, honestly, but I just noticed like I'm more grounded, I'm more present in everything that's around me and I feel more peaceful. Like you said, I've been starting to notice my breaths more. It's like whoa, I'm breathing, like I'm stressed right now. Oh, I'm breathing like this. So, you know, and it's really helped me tune to my body a little bit in that regard too, and then I feel like, for both of us really, because we've talked, we're both getting more intuition and guidance without even asking for it. It's like it's just there.

Speaker 1:

Totally agree, and it's like why is this?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, just felt like this just calling, and then I invested in this company and I've I'm like I'm invested in me period, like I only like this is my new addiction, like I want it so much just for me because I'm getting so much out of it. That's like, if I share it, I want to share it obviously to the world because they all deserve it. Don't get me wrong. But it's like, wow, share it. I want to share it obviously to the world because they all deserve it. Don't get me wrong. But it's like, wow, I selfishly, I just love having it for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it was one of those things where you like said, hey, I want to do this. That like everything just clicked for me.

Speaker 1:

It's like this is the right thing, yeah, well we went to our bodies before we bought this, if you remember right, and we really sat with it and different things because it was like you, we really sat with it and different things because it was like you know, I have a tendency to, when I do things, to just go all in, avoid other things and have a distraction. And you know, I'm just, I'm just that way you like to do things. I do, I love it, and so anyway, yeah, but I'm still grateful we have.

Speaker 2:

And maybe we've already answered this, but what are we afraid of if we come home, to our bodies? What are we afraid of and what might happen if we don't?

Speaker 1:

Well, what might happen if you don't is obviously all sorts of health issues, all sorts of trauma that you could have worked through past generational trauma that isn't yours, that you could have gotten rid of. So I think there's a lot of that and I don't think I know there's a lot of that, and I think we might actually find who we are. And I think for a lot of us, we say we want to find our purpose, but reality is we're scared to death that if we do find our purpose and this is what I find the number one fear, which is interesting we won't make money, We'll destroy everything we have, and that freaks people out and it's like well, it's survival right.

Speaker 2:

Like we have to survive. We have to survive, like we can't be doing anything else but surviving Right. Yeah, so anyway, um there's, there's a lot to unpack here, but oh, you know and maybe we've had some of these conversations before too but, like, as you move towards your authentic self, how's everybody around you going to react?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, big deal.

Speaker 2:

If you're an entrepreneur, how is your following going to react? How's your family going to react? How's your? You know everything. You can just keep going on and on and on, Cause there's just so much to fit the box, fit the mold, fit everything and don't, don't, make a splash. I mean.

Speaker 1:

probably the prime example of this is Dan Henry. I mean, my gosh, I I've known Dan for I don't know how many years now. Big shout out to you, dan. By the way, like him, don't like him. That what I'm not, what I'm saying here, is irrelevant, but I'll tell you, dan has taken us on his personal journey with his entrepreneurial journey, and it has been a show.

Speaker 2:

Oh man.

Speaker 1:

I mean it has been a show.

Speaker 2:

It really has.

Speaker 1:

But, at the end of the day, his authenticity of who he is and what he's done. If you don't believe you can still run a company and still grow and be your authentic self, go watch it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because it's, it's, it's, it's been impressive to see and it's been impressive to see and, of course, he can be polarizing, but like he just doesn't care. That's the beautiful thing about it, right? He can show up because he doesn't care. Yep, okay, so here's what we believe. You aren't broken. For a long time, I think a lot of us get in our heads we're broken. We're not broken. You're not too much. You're not something to fix. You are a cathedral of intelligence, a miracle of sensation, a sacred, embodied soul. Your body remembers who you were before the world told you to go numb, and it holds the key to your peace, your power and your truth. And the most amazing thing about it is it will welcome you back the second you return.

Speaker 2:

Now it's no secret. We're drowning in AI filters, screen performance and pressure. The cost is that we are all becoming digital minds and neglected bodies. That's what we've been talking about here. Our bodies are not a tool for output, and I do treat my some ways like that. It's like I got to get work done. I got to get work done and I'm going to ignore what you need because I got to get work done. You got to output output, output. I got to get work done. I'm going to ignore what you need because I got to get work done. You got to output, output, output.

Speaker 2:

It's not a problem to be solved or a project to be fixed. It's the last sacred space in the world trying to digitize your soul, and it's really a portal for real joy, real grief, real pleasure, real intuition, real presence. And we cannot outsource embodiments, we can only remember it. So we're going to talk a little bit about remembering. So how do we come back home to our bodies? Not with pressure, definitely not with pressure. Our bodies don't want pressure or more shoulds. It's with presence, reverence and small acts of remembering. So you brought up a reconnection tool earlier that was actually number one on my list, just out of curiosity from your perspective. What are some other tools people can do or rituals to reconnect to their bodies? They're like okay, but like I'm listening, but where do I even start?

Speaker 1:

So, like I said, number one thing is is just be aware of your body. So, like, what clothing are you wearing right now? How does it feel to your body? What is it doing for your body? You know how does the air feel, how does the sensation feel Like all those kinds of things really connect you to your body. The next thing is through taking a shower, you can it'll ground you. The water will give you aha moments. It'll connect you to your body. Breathwork can connect you to your body. Drinking water and keeping yourself with hydration hydrated will keep you in your body and really help you a lot.

Speaker 1:

Those are just some that come to mind, but another one would be walk in nature, nature baths. I don't know if you've been reading and studying how much they're doing these different things where you just go out in nature and you just sit there with nothing and all of a sudden, it's just like a full on what they call nature bath. And um, people are accomplishing so much just by reconnecting to nature itself. So, pick up a stone, look at it, show it that it's worthy, give it love and all of a sudden, wow, you'll feel more energy in your body.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that. Okay, here's 10 quick ways. One is, like you said, the body check-in ritual and, you know, if you're like sitting there and thinking I really want to get connected to my body, don't necessarily have to do all 10, like choose one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right. So take 60 seconds during the morning, midday or night and just ask what sensations do I notice? What does my body need right now? Not what should I do, but what do I feel? Next is a grounding touch. You can place a hand on your heart, belly or thighs. Breathe there, just notice. No fixing. This builds presence and safety in the body. One of my favorite is move without a goal. So many times I like to get the time in have to get the walk in.

Speaker 2:

But yes, dance, stretch, shake or walk, not to burn galleries, but to feel what it's like to be alive in your skin. Ask what kind of movement does my body crave today? Your body will tell you. Practice hunger and fullness awareness. So, before eating, pause. Am I hungry? What kind of nourishment do I need After eating? How does my body feel now? This gently rebuilds trust with your body's signals. And then you know one of our favorites again breathe like it matters.

Speaker 2:

Try two minutes of conscious breathing. Even if you just inhale for four, exhale for six, breath is your most direct access point to your nervous system. So, especially if you're overwhelmed and stressed and you're sitting there in your office or you're with your kids or whatever, just pause and breathe. Wear something you can feel, like you were just saying textures, weights, jewelry, scent, anything that makes you feel embodied and alive, rather than invisible or armored or even just yucky Like. Sometimes I put on my frumpy clothes because I want to be comfy, but it really doesn't like make me feel alive. Sometimes I just probably need to feel comfortable. Scan for pleasure. Notice what brings a subtle smile, a sense of softness or joy. It's the sunshine on your skin. Warm tea, music, pleasure reconnects you with aliveness, and it's one of the most healing states to invite into your body.

Speaker 2:

Another one talk to your body. Yes, really talk to it. What do you want me to know today? And then listen, journal if you want, and over time the messages get clearer. Another one we're getting down to the last two here. Create a body safe environment. Reduce harsh lighting, uncomfortable noise or uncomfortable clothing excuse me, noisy interruptions. Make your sounding supportive to your nervous system, not just your to-do list.

Speaker 2:

And the final one is slow down transitions. Instead of rushing from one thing to the next, I have a tendency to do, pause in between them. Let your body catch up to your day. This rewires your default state from urgency to awareness. And then there's one more that I think is really important. That wasn't on here, but it's like stop beating yourself up right. Stop with the negative self-talk. Start telling your body how incredible it is. Talk to yourself like you would like a nine-month-old grandbaby. You know, only give it love, only give it grace, only give it patience, like our bodies are listening to all of that. We won't go into the science of that, but it's, it's a real thing. So, bart, what is the one thing you wish you had learned about embodiment 10 years ago?

Speaker 1:

Well, I wish I would have known it existed. I was so.

Speaker 1:

I mean honestly, like I don't know how else to answer that, except for I wish I would have actually done some research in this space and understood it. But we don't know what we don't know, so I can't beat myself what I didn't know 10 years ago, but I do know that I wish I would have spent more time understanding it and I think I wish I would have understood it, because what it's done for us in connecting as a couple and just doing breathing, and you know the way we hold each other and the things that we do, just bring so much energy, so much closeness, so much connection, so much everything that I just missed out on a lot of years of that enjoyment that I I wish I could get back. But at the end of the day, I know what now and I can implement it now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that. I know for me. I didn't even, like you said, I didn't know embodiment was even a thing.

Speaker 2:

It was like my body was thing, to keep it a distance, really keep it clean, pure, worthy, all the things, not something that was a partner for me in my own life experience and even my own pleasure, you know. So I feel like it's like like a. We should start a quiet revolution of reconnection to our bodies. Right, remember what it feels like to be fully alive in your body, on your terms and in your truth, because, at the end of the day, your body isn't just something you have, it's really something that's awe-inspiring, it's incredible. It's where your spirit lives, it's where your intuition speaks, it's where joy, grief and aliveness all find form. Your body literally breathes you, it heals you, it is you in the most breathtaking, intelligent, mysterious way.

Speaker 2:

We spend so much time of our lives judging, ignoring or bypassing the body, but maybe what it really needs is just to be seen, amen, like we all do, to be honored and marveled at. And what it really needs is just to be seen, like we all do, to be honored and marveled at. And what a gift it is to live in this vessel and what a miracle to feel, move, breathe and exist here fully. So here's to living in your body, not just in your head, which I did for a long time, like fingers are pointing at me. That's kind of why I love to talk about this stuff, because I've had so many revelations in my life. I was very, very, very much in my head for a long, long time. So to breathing deeper, feeling more, honoring the miracle you walk around in every single day, because playing full out doesn't just mean pushing harder. Sometimes it means slowing down enough to hear the wisdom that's already within you.

Speaker 1:

That's how we play full out, and I think we play full out says play.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And we did that intentionally, because play is one of the best ways to live life. You get so much out of it and there's so much to be learned through play, through all the motion, through everything that happens when you're playing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that. Okay, I don't have life, I do have life updates. So we had some headsets show up today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all my breathwork stuff showed up. So I've got all my teaching stuff, which is done through personalized headsets so that you can feel very comfortable, not worry about anybody else, no distractions, You're in your ecosystem even if somebody's there. And I invested in 30 of them. I know it sounds like a lot right, but at the end of the day, I wanted to be able to bring our groups together and do this and really activate the people in our community.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm really excited for that. And, that being said, we've got a group of people coming next in about a week and a half and we will be doing breathwork sessions and we'll be out walking in nature and we're going to really take some deep dives into life mastery and we are so excited.

Speaker 1:

So excited, like this has been the journey that we've been dreaming of, and so excited to be on this path and to help others really find what we found. And you know it's funny how many people have asked us where do you find this and how do you do it, and all these kinds of things. And then, when it comes to it, it's like, you know, it's like signing up for the marathon. I'm so grateful for those who have and do, because we're so excited to teach what we've, what we've come up with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're so excited. Um, I know that you've played pickleball a little bit. Is there anything I'm missing?

Speaker 1:

I've roped a little bit and we've been planning our trips. I've been working on that and bought a few things for the trip, but really I think the main thing is Xander's been still playing, kobe's getting better, made a couple trips to Pocatello, just doing all sorts of just creative things. Right now I'm in a huge learning mode, so I've been studying lots of cool stuff and been working with a few mentors on just getting better and we planned a trip. I don't know if we've announced that.

Speaker 2:

I think we did a few days ago, but we didn't really go into a lot of detail on it.

Speaker 1:

So we planned a trip to go to Sweden, to Poland, to Germany and to Portugal, and a lot of that is for exploration in what we're trying to teach and where we want to teach and how we want to teach for couples, and some of the fun things ahead of us that we just know that we want to accomplish in our life with this amazing group of people that we're trying to surround ourselves with. So, other than that, I think those are the main updates that come to my mind, so we'll wrap this up. We're so grateful for you, the listener. Once again, we're so grateful, for the numbers have been going up, so we know you've been spreading the word and we can't thank you enough for doing that. Pushing that share button and getting somebody to our ecosystem means a lot to us. So, sonny and I don't want that to go unrecognized and we're grateful for that. So if you feel inclined, please share this with somebody. And this segment brought to you by I Do Epic.

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