We Play Full Out with Bart and Sunny

Your Greatest Wins (and Losses) Will Come from the People You Let Into Your Life

• Bart and Sunny Miller • Season 1 • Episode 65

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Ever feel like the people around you are either lifting you up or totally draining you? (Spoiler alert: They are!) In this episode, we’re diving deep into the power of relationships—the ones that fuel your success, the ones that hold you back, and how to tell the difference.

We’re breaking down:


🔥 Why your network IS your net worth (in business and life)
🔥 The Four Outcomes of Relationships—and how to make sure you’re building the right ones
🔥 How Bruce Lipton’s molecule analogy explains why some people complete you… and others just complicate you
🔥 Codependency vs. interdependence—are you in a relationship that strengthens your nervous system or fries it?
🔥 The Relational Value Ladder (because not everyone deserves VIP access to your life!)

This is a no-fluff, real talk episode on choosing powerful partnerships—whether in business, friendships, or love. If you’ve ever asked yourself, “Why do I keep attracting the wrong people?” or “How do I find my ride-or-die partners in life?”—this episode is for YOU.

💡 Ready to level up your relationships? Hit play and let’s go! 🚀

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Bart:

Welcome to. We Play Full Out with Bart and Sunny Miller. Take it away, Sunny.

Sunny:

Today we're going to talk about something really fun.

Bart:

Don't we always talk?

Sunny:

about things that are fun. Yeah, but I never know how to start when you say take it away Sunny.

Bart:

You don't? No, you could always start with the last comment that I made to you before we started.

Sunny:

No, okay, that would be inappropriate.

Bart:

Okay, all right, all right started. No, okay, that would be inappropriate. Okay, all right, all right, just making sure I was just using the masculine and feminine energy to start it off all right.

Sunny:

Everything in our life revolves around relationships everything, yes, agreed whether it's our connection with people, our environment or even the objects we own. Relationships shape our experience, decisions and outcomes, and that's kind of crazy. But if you think about even your car if you have one you have a relationship with your car, clothing, our homes, money and, of course, the people around us. The quality of these relationships determines the quality of our lives.

Bart:

Yeah, isn't that crazy.

Sunny:

It is crazy. So we're going to discuss how we can increase the quality of our lives by up-leveling our relationships with the people in our lives.

Bart:

I love it so freaking much.

Sunny:

You do love it. Bart loves humans.

Bart:

I do If you don't know that.

Sunny:

know it now.

Bart:

Yeah, and just to restate this know that, know it now, yeah, and just to restate this, I mean a statement we hear all the time and you probably have it in there, you know whatever, but it's you know. The five people you surround yourself with the most become your net worth.

Sunny:

Yeah.

Bart:

Right. So your network is your net worth, and if that's not, relationships. I don't know what is, and if that's not relationships, I don't know what is Way to finish that.

Sunny:

For me, you're welcome, all right. Success in life isn't just about what you know. It's about who you surround yourself with. Every major turning point, every great achievement and every crushing setback can usually be traced back to a relationship or jealousy of one. The people in our lives influence our thinking, our decisions and, ultimately, our outcomes. I could say that like 10 more times because, literally like who you go to for advice, who's giving you advice, who you're listening to. Like that is going to directly affect what you do.

Bart:

Totally, it's huge, 100%.

Sunny:

But not all relationships are created equal. Some will push you forward while others will hold you back. So understanding the difference is key. All right, so the people in your life shape who you become. And this is not off topic, but no, it's on topic. So I just remember reading I think it was Benjamin Hardy's book about environments. I want to say it was that book.

Bart:

Okay.

Sunny:

He was talking just about how, like we start to develop the habits of the people we hang around with.

Bart:

Oh yeah. We'll even start saying the words that they say.

Sunny:

I know and the same mannerisms and everything and the same mannerisms and everything. So I want to say he was just telling a story about a guy who kind of became really good friends with somebody who wasn't I don't know. I would say he wasn't super ambitious in life and he was pretty negative and he would kind of waste his day I don't don't quote me on this, but maybe playing video games or something all day.

Bart:

Yep, totally was.

Sunny:

And it really took his life in that same direction just because of who he associated with regularly.

Bart:

And that's why we talk about who our kids associate with make a huge difference yeah especially on mindset.

Sunny:

Yes, everything, but before pointing fingers at others, because we like to do this a lot, a lot of times, we like to look at the people in our lives and be like, oh well, you're not at this level, you're doing this wrong or you're making this mistake, or you're doing this to me. It's really important to look at ourselves and ask would you want to be in a relationship with you?

Bart:

Yeah, isn't that crazy Right.

Sunny:

Yes, too often we blame our circumstances or the people around us, like I just said, without first reflecting on our own flaws or the people around us, like I just said, without first reflecting on our own flaws, habits and contributions. So, like, I don't know, it's been quite a few years since we've talked about this, but, like, if you take a step back and go, would I want to be married to me? I can immediately see, like, what I need to work on, all the gaps I need to fill, because I think we all know deep inside what we do.

Bart:

Yeah, and I think that goes for everybody, no matter what situation you're in, and I think you bring up something that's really, really important, because sometimes we ask that, like you know, like you might say you know, would you want to be in a relationship with me? And then we're looking at how we're showing up for certain things and we start to critique ourselves, which I think is very important, to take inventory. But I think we also have to understand that in showing up for somebody, isn't always what they perceive for that relationship.

Sunny:

If that makes sense.

Bart:

So even though you take inventory yourself and you might be like I'm not showing up for this person the way I want, you may be 100% showing up to them the way that they need you to. So I'm just saying, as you go through this process, please don't beat yourself up, because sometimes we're projecting onto somebody else some other things I just wanted to make sure that was clear.

Sunny:

Yeah, no, that's a really important point and sometimes we're not.

Bart:

Yeah, exactly, we need to be aware of the different lines of it. Yeah, and I don't think when we do this kind of work, dude, pouring more doesn't hurt anything. I've never seen it hurt more of a relationship. You know what I mean?

Sunny:

Yeah, so it's only great to be the kind of person. Extraordinary relationships isn't just about choosing the right people, it's also being the right person. Yeah Right. So just kind of going back a little, how do you show up as a partner in your relationship In your home? Do you see what needs to be done and take action without being asked? Do you elevate your environment and leave things better than you found them Just some basic things right? The same principle applies to business. Do you bring solutions, create value and ensure that every collaboration is better because of your presence? So good, strong relationships fuel personal growth, success and fulfillment, while unhealthy connections, as we all know, can drain you and keep you stuck. That's never a fun place to be in. So what if the key to extraordinary relationships isn't just shared experiences, because it's not but intentional, high value connections that challenge and inspire you to be your best?

Bart:

Okay. So can I throw something at you Please? All right, so let's say you are just because it popped in my mind traditional religion. So let's say you're in a religion and you have these certain things in your inner relationship and somebody comes to you that's outside of that religion. Do you still have the relationship or do you base it based on your beliefs that you have to have that relationship? Does that make sense?

Sunny:

Yeah, it makes sense, and I think that every person's different in how they approach that and it depends on like we're going to get into this a little more. But if there's not shared values there, then it can be difficult to maintain that relationship.

Bart:

Okay, but how are you not being challenged sometimes in in relationship?

Sunny:

I'm not saying that. You know what I'm saying and that's what brought it up.

Bart:

It's not and I know once again I don't have a dog in the fight. I think it's just. It's just something to be interesting to talk about, because sometimes we get challenged the most in relationship with different points of views, but people aren't willing to talk about them that are in our same. So it's like you and I have talked about this In a partnership right, a marriage, something that's pressing me the most. I may not talk to you about, Even though you're my closest relationship, because if I challenged it with you, it could really affect our relationship when it shouldn't, but it really really can. So that's why I bring it up.

Sunny:

No, that's good, because we are going to talk about that a little bit later.

Bart:

And it's going to fit right into what you're saying.

Sunny:

Good, because we are going to talk about that a little bit later. Okay, good, and it's going to fit right into what you're saying. Good, but I think it just goes back to how open-minded and accepting you are as a person.

Bart:

And I think it's like you're going to talk about here in a minute Depends on the level of the relationship.

Sunny:

Yep, that's exactly it.

Bart:

Okay, cool, let's keep going.

Sunny:

Okay, and just some fun food for thought, like going back to people and relationships. When you need guidance, god or the universe, or whatever you want to call it, usually sends a person. That's how powerful people in our lives right Sends a person to help us and to guide us, and I think once you've been helped through processes, then you want to turn around and do the same for others. It's your goal to become that person for somebody else. You know you're on the right path when people in your life tell you how thankful they are for you and they thank God for you, or they thank the universe for you coming into their lives, and also when negativity, destruction or manipulation enters your life, that also comes through a person as well.

Bart:

Yeah, so you're saying there's a positive in it.

Sunny:

Yeah, there's a polarity.

Bart:

Isn't that crazy.

Sunny:

Yin and yang right. So choose your close relationships wisely. I mean, we've already said that, but it's just kind of a different way to look at it. So we're gonna talk about the relational value ladder. Like you were just saying, not all relationships are equal and it is important to understand the different levels of connection so you can be more intentional about who you align with. So the first one would be an acquaintance. Those are low commitment, low expectations. They're casual relationships that don't require deep trust or involvement.

Bart:

Yeah, I call them the gym relationships A lot of times.

Sunny:

Oh, I was like gym, gym who. But you're saying at the gym, At the gym right Walk in.

Bart:

Hey, what's up, bro? We see each other all the time we're at the gym. It's literally just a hey, but we have a relationship because I know their name. They know me, we see each other uptown we do say hi, but that's it Perfect, call them the gym relationships.

Sunny:

The next one up is to go from acquaintance to a friendship, and that is a step up in commitment. And when you go from an acquaintance to a friendship, it's usually because you have a shared experience of some sort.

Bart:

Exactly Yep.

Sunny:

So maybe, instead of at the gym, you both signed up for a bodybuilding show that you're going to be in together.

Bart:

Yeah, or I call them the coffee experiences. It's like, hey, would you want to do a cup of coffee? It's not like complicated. They show up, we're not eating dinner, we're not doing anything, but we're taking that relationship to just one more step. Have a cup of coffee, chat a few, a little bit longer. We're going to get to know each other a little more personal. But I haven't invited my significant other or my best friend to go hang out with them and I actually haven't had quote unquote dinner with them. They're coffee relationships.

Sunny:

So we go from gym to coffee. I like your names, those are so good. So there's some mutual support, but it's still pretty surface level, yeah.

Bart:

They're coffee.

Sunny:

The next one would be a close friendship or a committed relationship, and these involve longer term trust, deep emotional investment and shared growth.

Bart:

What's your name? So my name is come to my house.

Sunny:

Oh, okay.

Bart:

Those start to where I invite somebody into or let's go to dinner with our friends or our significant others. We're taking it to another level, where I'm bringing you or you're bringing yourself into a closer relationship. Does that make sense? One of the conversations I call those going from coffee to come over to my house.

Sunny:

And I can see different touch points. So like an acquaintance you see at the gym, whatever, there's no touch point where you're intentionally meeting somewhere else. That's right, when you went for coffee, you did that. That's right, and then in this one, you're bringing them more into your ecosystem.

Bart:

Your personal space. Yeah, exactly More vulnerable, it's more vulnerability.

Sunny:

Okay, yep. And then the last one is a called can be called a covenant relationship. It's the rarest and most powerful. It's deeply loyal, sacred trust and ride or die commitment. These connections create the most impact, but they're also the most tested. Yes, what's your name?

Bart:

So that's either called partnership.

Sunny:

Yeah.

Bart:

Partnership. Partnership is what I would call it, because that's where I'm taking somebody. Now, what people don't realize is a covenant relationship is what they would also say is a marriage.

Sunny:

Yeah, for sure.

Bart:

But there still can be just that commitment, lacking the intimacy part of it, with other humans in your life that are just that critical. So I look at it as a partnership. That's when we're designing where, hey, we got each other's backs. We're partners in some sort of way in life.

Sunny:

Okay, I like that. So, for example, while we were at funnel hacking live, a good friend of ours, james Billen, came with us and you guys were just talking about how, like if your trailer was broken down in the middle of the road at two o'clock in the morning, five hours from here, and you called him. He would be there. Would you say that's a close friendship and committed relationship, or a covenant relationship?

Bart:

Well, with him and I it would be more of a coveted relationship, because we've coveted to each other that we've got each other's back at the level of. It doesn't matter if it's two o'clock in the morning, I'm picking up. If you're stranded somewhere, I'm going to come and get you and I would do that. That, to me, is more of a coveted relationship, gotcha.

Sunny:

Covenant. Okay, now too many people rush into deep friendships, romantic relationships or commitments after one great night out or a single shared experience, thinking they found their lifelong person or their new business partner. But true partnerships take time to build we person or their new business partner, but true partnerships take time to build. We were kind of talking about this before we jumped on about like. Because you're on Instagram a lot, you share stories a lot, people probably feel like they really know you like, you trust you, like maybe they're one of your friends, but when they approach you in real life, it's like, whoa, wait a minute, you know. So it's the energy, dynamics of understanding that relationships do take time to build and I think it's important not to jump through each one if the other person's not at the same level you are. Am I saying that right? Yeah, so sometimes I think what?

Bart:

you're saying is I might see a relationship because I've had a lot more time to build the relationship on my end. I've seen them in this. I've seen this, all these things.

Sunny:

Like it's growing on your end. Yeah.

Bart:

Like I'm in full on, like this is a person I want to be extremely close to and then I approach them, I meet them. I'm so much further into the relationship than they are because they haven't had that same chance. Yeah, and so energetically I'm like what chance and so energetically I'm like what?

Sunny:

And they're like oh, I had no idea we had this kind of relationship at this point in time and it can be overwhelming to them, not that they're not ready or not even excited, but it's an overwhelm.

Bart:

So just understand sometimes that the way you see the relationship and the way you're putting it in your head Re-projecting it. Yeah, isn't necessarily the way they're always seeing it and that doesn't that's not right or wrong for them. It doesn't mean they can't get there, but they may need some time to process and to go and understand and look into, to catch up to where you're at. Yeah, that's all I'm trying to say.

Sunny:

Yeah, no, that's good. I just think it's a good point to bring up because, like um, we may be shocked if we approach somebody that way and they're not at the same level they are, and then maybe we, you know, abandon ship or whatever when a relationship can still be grown.

Bart:

Yeah, absolutely.

Sunny:

It's just being intentional about it and making sure that you take the time.

Bart:

Well, and I'll give you an example. You know, like, let's say, let's say that I'm, I see somebody that's online and I'm watching them through the online lens, and then I'm building like all these things, and I'm actually going back and forth with messages and all sorts of stuff.

Bart:

Then I meet them in person and they're an introvert, yeah, and they're like so different. But I was like, ah, and then all of a sudden I didn't realize why their personality behind the camera and I have to approach the relationship, not that they don't want one, but all of a sudden they're just like whoa, too much too. You know, I want to escape this type of thing. You know what I mean. And it's not their fault. And nor did I see that it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean I can't still build a relationship.

Bart:

Yeah exactly, that's all.

Sunny:

Yeah, I don about the four outcomes of relationships. Okay, so every relationship you engage with, believe it or not, affects your nervous system, either regulating and strengthening you or destabilizing and exhausting you. The key is to identify which category your relationships fall into and make conscious choices to move toward healthier dynamics.

Bart:

Yeah.

Sunny:

So I would say the four outcomes of relationships at this point is going to be your either already close friends are in a committed relationship, or higher Cool, Because if you're just friends it's not going to probably affect your nervous system as much Depends on the level of friendship. I guess what I'm trying to say. So the first one is a lose-lose relationship and in this type of situation, neither one of you benefits. Yep, they're toxic.

Sunny:

They're full of resentment neither one of you benefits. Yep, they're toxic. They're full of resentment, negativity or dysfunction. They drain energy, create unnecessary drama and leave both parties worse off than before. So maybe an example would be two business partners constantly competing, undermining each other and ultimately causing their business to fail.

Bart:

Yep, that's good. Yeah, they got in it thinking, because they're overachievers everything was going to be great. Then they get in it and they absolutely blow each other up because of their personalities and things like that and it ruins their relationship.

Sunny:

And you can see how the same thing would happen in maybe more of a partnership, a personal partnership right Yep.

Sunny:

The next one is win, lose no-transcript for support, but it's never there when you need them. Yep, it's good, so good. The next one is win-win, and in this situation both people can benefit, but codependency can arise. So on the surface, these relationships are positive because both parties gain value. However, if not managed properly, they can create codependency, where both individuals rely too much on each other for validation or fulfillment. And the interesting thing about codependency is it happens when your emotional state becomes overly reliant on another person's moods and actions. If their energy is off, yours crashes too. It's like you can't regulate your nervous system. Apart from them, it's always going off of. They're always feeding off of each other.

Bart:

Yep, so you're not whole is what you're saying by yourself, independently. So this is what we talk about. Do you have another one?

Sunny:

No, I just going to give an example, but go ahead, go, give her your example, then I'll go. So it'd be like a couple that builds each other up but also avoids individual growth because they fear upsetting the balance, or when one partner feels an unhealthy need for the other's approval and struggles to function independently. So that goes back to what you were saying earlier about challenging each other to grow Like. If you're in a codependent situation, you're going to have a lot harder time doing that.

Bart:

Okay, so I'm going to break this down really quickly and how Sonny and I do this in our marriage stuff and the things that we talk about. And so we look at it as a want-want relationship versus a want-need relationship, versus a being whole with each other in a want-want relationship. So in a want-want relationship you both want to be there but you don't both need to be there, which means you're whole by yourself in every aspect of your life, but you want to be with that person. Then there's the want-want relationship, where you both want each other but you're so dependent upon each other that you forget that you don't have the autonomy to be whole by yourself. So it sucks the energy out of the relationship.

Sunny:

Yeah, I think you just said want, want again but that'd be need need.

Bart:

No in a want. Want, let's say we were codependent on it right, the two of us. But you couldn't walk away because if you did, your energetic system would just blow up. But you still want to be in it.

Sunny:

Right but. I need to be to be validated.

Bart:

Yeah, you got a good point, okay, so we'll go with that. So want need relationship. In a want need relationship, one of you needs the other to exist, to be whole, okay, and so that causes a problem in the relationship, because one of the people in there is not whole, and maybe both aren't, but they need them so badly for something that they absolutely couldn't exit or they wouldn't be whole. So I think that that's a really good thing to talk about. Both might be doing really well, but if you're both independently not able to be whole by yourselves, that is still not at the full capacity in a relationship, because you couldn't walk away. So just remember that.

Sunny:

Yep, I have an analogy for that a little bit.

Bart:

Go.

Sunny:

First I want to talk about the win-win-win outcome.

Bart:

Let's go.

Sunny:

Okay. The win-win-win outcome is the gold standard you win, they win, and the relationship itself becomes a force for good. This is the ideal dynamic where, once again, both individuals grow independently while supporting each other. Like you just said, you're in a want-want, not need-want or need-need.

Bart:

Okay.

Sunny:

The relationship creates ripple effects benefiting not just the two people involved, but also their families, communities or business.

Bart:

So good.

Sunny:

Right. So, like in a business partnership, that could look like both partners bring complimentary skills, make each other better and create a product or service that improves our customers' lives. Yeah, that's awesome. Okay, so how to move more toward win-win-win relationships? First is to audit your relationship. Are they lifting you up or holding you back? And once again, you got to be self-aware because we can project.

Bart:

Yeah. That can get sticky Totally.

Sunny:

It's like I think you're holding me back, but really I'm projecting that onto you and I'm the one doing it Right Totally.

Bart:

Yeah, good catch Happens pretty often, it does.

Sunny:

Next one is to set clear expectations and boundaries, Ensure both parties understand what success looks like. Seek partnerships where you contribute from a place of strength, not lack, and then be willing to walk away from lose, lose and win lose dynamics if it calls for that.

Bart:

Yeah, and I think the way that you find that your hole is is that in any relationship and I know this is going to ruffle a few people's feathers so you know I get it and I understand it, but I just want you to know that if you're not whole by yourself, none of these relationships are at the level you want them to be.

Sunny:

Okay.

Bart:

Okay. So what I mean by this is is that you have to, even in a marriage or in a partnership, if you can't walk away and be whole and be good with it, then you're not whole in yourself. That's how you want to set up partnerships and relationships, so that everything is always now. That doesn't mean it's not hard, it doesn't mean I'm not trying to skirt around that, but I'm saying to where you're going to be whole, because you'll see people that go through breakups in partnerships and they're devastated. Or somebody dies in a business and the relationship was so. It just devastates them for years. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and so they're not whole, not that they're not whole. Anyway, I could go off on this even more, but we won't. We'll just leave it at this. But try to be as whole as you possibly can so that in any type of relationship, you're not like you're waiting for that to happen, but you're independent to want to be in that relationship because you are whole.

Sunny:

Yes, and that leads right into my little analogy here, which you've already explained it so well, but I think it's a good analogy to get your mind around it if you need a little bit more. So, Bruce Lipton. He's a renowned cell biologist and author, and I heard him describe it this way once and I thought it was so good. He said that in biology there are some molecules that are inherently complete and stable on their own, while others are incomplete and require bonding with other molecules to achieve stability. So some are stable by themselves. Some have to have another molecule in order to be stable. These incomplete molecules seek attachments, often forming chemical bonds, out of necessity rather than choice. That directly mirrors human relationships. Some people feel whole within themselves, emotionally independent and fulfilled, while others feel incomplete, believing they need another person to fill the gaps in their life. Sometimes I don't even know if it's on a conscious level. I almost think it's more subconsciously.

Bart:

Yeah, I think that that can be the case and I think, you know, we have a mutual friend, but it's more. I wouldn't want to say more, but I think we have a friend that, like Lindsay, you know, like she can be up and she's like, let's say that they go skiing and all of a sudden, in the middle of her day, she's like I don't feel like skiing anymore, she can just look at somebody.

Bart:

Yeah, I'm just gonna go to town, ride a bike, so have fun everybody. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna go. Yep, now some people look that in a friendship and be like but we came here to go skiing, that's it.

Sunny:

You gotta do this or you're there with your husband or whoever they'd be like.

Bart:

Uh no, I came here with you right, you're not doing that, but she's just whole enough at herself that she independently regulates what she needs to do when she knows she needs to do it, and her husband recognizes that.

Sunny:

Yeah, he's fine with it.

Bart:

Oh, he's totally cool with it, Like go have fun. It's so fun and I hope we do a lot of that for ourselves. Yeah, you know, and it can be challenging, it can, but at the end of the day it's a really cool thing.

Sunny:

Yep, so I think that kind of you know, when two incomplete people form a relationship like you said this already you often develop dependency or dysfunction. You rely on each other for validation, security or self-worth and once again that becomes a need-need or a need-want relationship. But on the other hand, when two whole, complete individuals choose to come together, they complement rather than complete, complement rather than complete so cool. They build something greater, not out of desperation, but out of a shared vision, values and mutual contribution. Obviously, these are the most successful partnerships. They're the one one. They want to be there, they choose to be there, they don't have to be there.

Sunny:

Yeah, so some three keys to create a thriving relationship. Number one would be to align with shared values and vision. Does this relationship align with your core values and long-term vision? Are you both moving in the same direction or will this connection pull you off course? And I think kind of like you know that your religion example popped back up to me. But if your shared value and vision is like personal growth and expansion, then even I don't think a religion would stand in the way of that.

Sunny:

Yeah, because you're open, you're willing, you're all the things you know. Yeah, Number two would be to commit to mutual growth and contribution.

Bart:

Yeah.

Sunny:

There we go. Are you both committed to elevating and challenging each other? Are you bringing your best to the relationship or just expecting to receive In your home or business? Do you actively contribute, take responsibility and leave things better than you found them? And the last one is to check your motives and your emotional maturity. Are you seeking this relationship out of loneliness, fear or a need for validation? Would you want to be in a relationship with yourself, and are you approaching this connection from a place of strength or hoping the other person will fill a gap in your life?

Bart:

Yeah, and I can tell you one of the red flags is is if you're in a relationship and you're trying to change somebody, ooh Okay, that's a red flag for you.

Sunny:

Yeah.

Bart:

Okay, instantly, because if you don't love the person for where they're at right then and who they are, you're not in a healthy relationship for them or for yourself, and if you see somebody that's always trying to change you or always trying to make you into somebody different, it's a red flag for you.

Sunny:

Yeah.

Bart:

Because they are not whole with who you are today and are okay with that. They want you to evolve. Now it's okay to be in something and think, oh my gosh, I wish. But you can wish all day long. Yeah, you have got to love that person in the relationship for where they're at and what you loved about them. And sometimes another thing in relationship is is we start off with a love of, let's say, pickleball and that's what brought us together, but then we get caught up on all these other things and we forget about the great things that brought us together.

Sunny:

Yeah.

Bart:

Because, as the relationship evolves, other things start to come in and you may need to back that relationship back down to well. This is where the relationship was ideal. I'm going to put them back in this category and I'm totally cool with it. Yeah, Does that make sense? It?

Sunny:

does.

Bart:

So you can regulate relationships on that way too.

Sunny:

And I also love. I think it's interesting that as humans, we think that we can I want to say, force a person to grow, or we try to make them become what we want them to become. But if somebody does that to you, are you more constrictive or expansive? Totally, you're going to shut down, Amen, you're just going to shut down. So it's like no, allow for the environment, allow them to see, allow them to take the time to like, maybe get your vision If it's a really a good direction for them and they will want to grow into it instead of just shutting down. So that's pretty much it for today. Yeah, I mean to wrap it up. If you're in a desperate place, be very careful about jumping into a deep commitment. That goes for business and in personal relationships. The right people will help you rise higher, but the wrong ones will pull you down. So choose wisely, take massive action and play to win.

Bart:

Yeah, play full out, let's go, let's go. All right, you guys? Well, hope you love this, and we always ask everybody out there to please, please, please, share the message. We've got some life updates and I want to make sure we get those in, but I always want to just remind people that if this was helpful for you, please pass it on and go listen to past episodes. The more this grows, the more people we can impact.

Sunny:

And I don't know if you know you might know, but we do have a newsletter that this podcast is based around. It goes out every Friday at weplayfulloutcom, but we've also, you know, if we have some funny events coming up, like we do right now or anything like that, we will email our list first. So if you want to be in on all the good details, make sure you go sign up at weplayfulloutcom.

Bart:

Go subscribe to weplayfulloutcom. All right, what you got for life updates.

Sunny:

Okay, well, xander performed in a jazz festival at BYU last Saturday, and his band sounded so good.

Bart:

So good, it was so fun, they did an amazing job.

Sunny:

He also had a concert last night where he again played in the varsity jazz band as well as the Wind Ensemble. It was so fun to hear that kid play. He did get up, uh, somewhere around the middle of the concert and did some improv and killed it, and he also had a little fun. He borrowed your meta glasses and he was, uh, you know, recording video from those glasses throughout the concert. One of the funnest videos he showed me was him and the guy sitting next to him thought they lost their music, couldn't find it, so they were really stressed.

Bart:

They were scrambling and they had it all on film with them trying to find their music. Yeah, so fun to watch that Good.

Sunny:

Yesterday, you and Mercedes, our daughter, shot some more content.

Bart:

Yeah, we did For Instagram and TikTok.

Sunny:

Yeah, you did some fun stuff.

Bart:

Yeah, it's been really fun.

Sunny:

And I got Lila duty, so that was a win win win relationship.

Bart:

That's so good, that's right. That grandbaby still in our hearts.

Sunny:

And we've sold quite a few tickets to Ido Epic Live and we're just heading into March. So if you're thinking about coming, if you've heard about the event, you're even curious about it I would highly suggest going to IdoEpicLivecom and getting on that, because our space is just limited. It's not, we're not live cabins are damn near sold out cabins are about gone and the venue is small so we cannot fit that many people into it. But everybody, I mean, just go check it out, you'll see what people say about it.

Bart:

Um, it's like no other I'm gonna call you out if you're not coming you are freaking crazy. If you've ever done one event or want to push yourself to the next level, come to. I do epic livecom. Go, get it done. It's going to be a game changer, it's all I'll say.

Sunny:

And then I think the last update is we are heading to play in a local pickleball tournament in just a couple of hours.

Bart:

Not even that we're leaving in 20 minutes 20 minutes.

Sunny:

We barely signed up. Today I'm not feeling ready, but, as you pointed out to me, we play full out even when we're not ready all the time. That's right, let's go. We're going to jump in and we're just going to go have some fun. We're going to play full out.

Bart:

Yeah, if you never put yourself in the arena, you never understand the energies and how it feels. It feels so sometimes you just need to sign up for something just to push your nervous system to a different level, and that's okay. Just go do something you haven't done. And that's one thing I find in partnership and relationship not to get back into. It is is that, you guys, it's okay to try new things together. It's okay, like it's fun. It's fun. So experience the fun of living a life where you can be spontaneous, you can just do things and not have to have a rhyme or reason, just do it.

Sunny:

That's a good challenge for this weekend. It's Friday right now. Go do something playful, fun or spontaneous this weekend.

Bart:

See where it gets you. All right, all right, you guys. So once again want to wrap it all up by the power of partnership and relationship. You know, really, think about who you are and what would it take to get whole. You know you get whole. What do you need and who do you need in your corner to do that?

Bart:

Now, sonny and I have had a lot of couples approaching us to hire us to help them with their partnerships and their marriage. They want to play full out and they want to know what to do. So we're putting a program together. If you're interested in any of that kind of information, would you please let us know, because I hate to build something. They always say test your audience before you actually build it, and maybe you know what People aren't as interested as I think they are, so maybe they are.

Bart:

So if you are interested in this, we do have a little course. We ran three I think it was about three years ago, might've been two years ago for couples and how to create a really massive connection in one month, 30 days. It's a 30 day challenge. I would like to throw that out there again and do a couples 30 day challenge and just see what would happen for how many couples across the ecosystem, because I know I know it'd make a huge difference. So, that being said, if you're interested in stuff like that, would you please send us a message and let us know that you're interested in that, and then we'll consider putting that all back together and launching it out to the world. Awesome. So this segment brought to you by I Do Epic.

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