Unlock 2025: Start Your Year with a Bold Twist! 🌟

Kick off the new year with us on “We Play Full Out” as we tackle the big question: What does your 2025 look like if you could script it any way you wanted? 

This episode isn't just about setting goals; it's about breaking barriers. We share some personal challenges, triumphs and tips on how to step out of the comfort zone and into a life that's truly your own making. We’ll dive into real, tangible ways to add excitement and depth to your everyday, helping you craft a year that’s both daring and deeply fulfilling. 

Ready to shake things up? Tune in and get inspired to craft your most adventurous year yet!

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Chapters

• 0:02 Planning for a Successful 2025
• 6:53 Stepping Out of Comfort Zones
• 18:30 Expanding Life Experiences Through Change
• 26:33 Embracing Fear
• 32:59 Exploring Growth and Relationship Dynamics
• 39:05 Return to Comfort and Success

Transcript

Bart: 0:02

Welcome to. We Play Full Out with Bart and Sunny Miller. Take it away, Sunny.

Sunny: 0:07

You know, there's something about a fresh, new, sparkling year that feels like a blank page just waiting for a story to be written upon it. The close of 2024 is kind of like the end of a chapter in a book, and I think it's so cool that we have the opportunity to close that chapter so good. It's been a tough year. We can put it behind us and leave it there, Although I must say that we should take the lessons we learned from that tough year with us. Or it's a waste of a tough year right, Always the lessons learned.

Sunny: 0:44

But if it's a great year, we can keep it all tucked away into our fondest little memory banks and take it with us. You know our fond memories as we go. But either way, chapter 2024 is over and we have the rather exciting new opportunity to look forward and dream as big or as little as we would like to or dare to, as we start to create our chapter that is now becoming 2025. And the interesting thing about that is whether we intentionally create that chapter or not, it's happening. It's happening right now. So I know that you and I are on the same page probably a pun intended there, now that I think about it that we would rather intentionally create that chapter so that we can experience the things that are thrilling to us or that, you know, get us all excited in the upcoming year, versus just hanging on, waking up, going into the routine and trying to make the right day to day.

Bart: 1:41

Yep, architecting your life by design. And it also reminds me so many times of the game I've played with lots of entrepreneurs of saying if I took everything away from you and put you in a new place, what would you do to create a million dollar business? In fact, there was a book wrote on this and it was a bunch of entrepreneurs that put their input in and said what would they do if everything was just stripped away? And I thought that was really interesting, because reality is it can be for some and it can't be for others, but either way, we ought to look at everything has just been taken away and you're starting fresh. Let's go.

Sunny: 2:14

Fresh and new. And isn't that a show too? Undercover Billionaire or something like that is pretty similar. Super fun to go watch if you're an entrepreneur, even if you're not Yep, I think. I think it's worth it Undercover billionaire Yep. The one caveat here is that the universe likes to throw a few things our way, but that just keeps life interesting, it's part of the game, Just like the undercover billionaire or anything else right, you're going to come across things you weren't expecting.

Bart: 2:42

Good and bad. You know all sorts of things.

Sunny: 2:45

Generally, though, I think it's for our good. We talk about that all the time. Things work for us, not against us. So, even though the universe may throw us a curve ball, we can, you know, enjoy the fact that it's for our own good, yep, okay. So creating a visual story of your upcoming year we talked about this just earlier today is like planning a fun Disney trip or any kind of vacation you want to go on, yep. Where are you going to stay? How long are you going to be there, what outfits are you going to wear, what places do you get to go see or visit, and what kind of activities do you get to do when you're there? What kind of foods are there that you are going to make sure that you get your hands on? Planning a vacation to me is just as fun and I know that sounds crazy, but it can be just as fun as actually going on the vacation.

Bart: 3:34

Yeah, I agree, and I watched that in our daughter.

Sunny: 3:37

Yep, and I feel like planning your 2025 should be just as fun.

Bart: 3:42

Amen.

Sunny: 3:43

So when planning a vacation, I thought about this. You actually go and look at everything visually, like you look at the hotels, you look at the places you're going to visit, you look at all the things.

Bart: 3:55

You download the apps, you look at the times you're going to be on the ride, you look at wait times coming up or what that time of year was like.

Sunny: 4:03

But it's all visual. That's why I think it's really cool to do vision boards. Yeah, so a tool our daughter, mercedes, told us about, is a new feature in Pinterest called collages. It's not currently available on desktop, but it is available on Pinterest on your smartphones or your iPads. You can just go to Pinterest there's a little plus create button right at the bottom, and then you can select collage and you can create your dream year. You can then, you know, download it, print it out if you'd like to.

Sunny: 4:38

Having a clear vision of what you really want helps bring it to you, and that's why I think it's so important that you do this. Research in psychology suggests that when we clearly define our goals, our subconscious begins to engage in a powerful way that's known as the reticular activating system. This part of the brain helps us notice opportunities and resources that align with our goals. This part of the brain helps us notice opportunities and resources that align with our goals, effectively turning our mental blueprints into reality. By setting clear, well-defined goals, we essentially program our subconscious to work towards these objectives, often leading to serendipitous encounters and ideas that propel us forward. I think we've all heard that before, I think, but it's a good, good reminder, coming into the new year, that when you're clear on what you want, your brain will actually activate a system to help you make that happen.

Bart: 5:32

Yeah.

Sunny: 5:33

And when you create visual representations of your goals, you're activating both your subconscious and your conscious mind, and it helps you stay more motivated because you have a visual reminder of it all the time.

Bart: 5:43

Yep, so good.

Sunny: 5:44

So it's like a win, win, win all around.

Bart: 5:46

Yep.

Sunny: 5:47

So challenge you to at least write down your goals and if you want bonus points, go do some vision boards. And now in our I Do Epic groups, we are all about goal setting. Yep, so that is one thing.

Bart: 6:00

In fact, we have a playbook that we've put out.

Sunny: 6:02

Yep, in fact, we have a playbook that we've put out. Yep, we've got a playbook playbookidoepiccom and we just finished a full training on that with our members so that they can have clearly defined goals and, with our regular check-ins, there's a 95% chance that they are going to achieve them, which is absolutely crazy in my mind, but it's real.

Bart: 6:21

What would you pay if you knew your goals were going to be achieved? That's what I'm always like wondering about people.

Sunny: 6:27

You know, I know because I sit and think and go okay, what's an ROI on an accountability program?

Bart: 6:31

Right. Well, if you're going to achieve your goals, yeah, yeah, and you're 95% higher and you can network, like so many things that blow my mind. But anyway, let's keep moving on.

Sunny: 6:40

Yeah, yeah, let's keep moving on. Yeah, yeah, okay. So we're going to have some pro tips from you and me here. All right, don't limit yourself based on what currently is. So, you and I, we love to have deep conversations about things. It's really fun for us, Right, and since we have placed the we play full out motto onto our lives and onto our relationship together, we revisit that often A lot, I would say I mean every week for sure, but probably more often.

Bart: 7:06

Yeah, three times a week yeah.

Sunny: 7:08

What we've discovered is that personality routines, which I could probably also call comfort zones, yep, resistance, lethargy and fear can have deep and lasting impacts on creating our lives and fully experiencing the time that we have here.

Bart: 7:24

Yeah, let's face it we have here.

Sunny: 7:24

Yeah, let's face it, life is short.

Bart: 7:25

Yeah.

Sunny: 7:27

But leaning into fear and being willing to step out of comfort zones is one of the most transformative things you can do to expand your life and become who you aspire to be. And of course, as humans, we always want to feel confident before we go too far with anything. But the paradox of life is that confidence comes as we do the thing we don't feel confident in it. The more we do it, the more confident we become. Right. Right, and I think part of that is just knowing you're not going to be great at anything at first.

Bart: 7:58

Yeah, and a good example of that. If you've ever tried it, it's a balance beam. If you haven ever tried it, it's a balance beam. If you haven't try it, the first time you walk across one, I mean to tell you it's only, I think, what is it? Four feet off the ground? A balance beam.

Sunny: 8:11

Probably yeah.

Bart: 8:12

Something like that right. It's not like you're going to die if you fall.

Sunny: 8:16

No.

Bart: 8:16

Right, but at the end of the day, the way you step and the way you go across it all depends on your mental capacity, right. But what's interesting is, after you've done it 50 times, the way you walk across that balance beam is night and day different. The way you approach it, the way you step, how you step, all the things just seem to start to change.

Sunny: 8:47

And you probably get to the point where you don't even really have to think about walking across it. You just do it. Yeah, and guess what, what it might be fun People actually have fun on it, which is crazy, and then maybe you can start to do tricks on it. Yeah, and then you can just go from there, right.

Bart: 9:03

That's really interesting, right, but a lot of people don't even take the first step.

Sunny: 9:10

Yep, don't even take the first step, and that's a perfect segue into my story. I tell a little personal story about myself. Awesome. So there was a time in my life not too long ago where I was not happy with my body. Time in my life not too long ago where I was not happy with my body. I didn't necessarily want to be a size zero or anything, but I was gaining some weight to where my confidence was low and it was really affecting me to the point where I like we'd have business events coming up and I didn't even want to go. Like I don't want to go, I don't want to see people, I don't want photos of me, like I didn't want all the things and I just wasn't feeling comfortable in my own skin.

Sunny: 9:46

And it's not like we're not like kind of active people just regularly. And I was going to the gym here and there I was like doing the things and I really thought that I was making progress with my body until I saw some wedding photos that were taken at our daughter's wedding and I'm like, oh my goodness, I am not making the progress that I thought I was making. So I shared that with you and let's be clear, like this challenge was just taking too much of my energy, like it was stopping me from living the life that I wanted to live. Right, it was keeping me at home, was doing whatever. Well, I was still going, but it was uncomfortable. So I shared that with you and you're like I will get you a fitness coach. And so you researched some coaches out and you found one for me. And so you wind out Jeff later as my coach and, oh man, no, I'm going to stop you.

Bart: 10:36

I actually brought up that and at the time you passed. Okay, I don't remember that. You remember that you're the one that reached out to Jeff later and you hired him without me.

Sunny: 10:46

No, no, no, no, that wasn't the first time.

Bart: 10:48

Okay.

Sunny: 10:50

There's more to this story.

Bart: 10:51

Okay, you hired him first, okay.

Sunny: 10:54

And I had to send that first before photo. Yep, and as we both know, that's a rough deal.

Bart: 11:00

Yeah, that's in your bra and panties.

Sunny: 11:01

Yep, it is.

Sunny: 11:02

Yeah, that's in your bra and panties. Yep, it is. And I actually thought I was doing better than I was when I saw that photo, because, once again, like you're stripped down and there's everything there to see. And I spent about a year with him and I was making slow progress and it just wasn't quite where I wanted it to be. Yet you had done some bodybuilding competitions before and I swore I would never do that.

Sunny: 11:29

It terrified me to think about walking across the stage in a tiny little bikini and in fact, I couldn't even wear just a sports bra in the gym and I was always covered up. And I decided that this was a pattern I needed to change and if I really wanted to change my body, I needed to do something drastic To me. Decided that this was a pattern I needed to change and if I really wanted to change my body, I needed to do something drastic. To me, that meant I had to lean into fear and give myself a very heavy dose of a pattern interrupt in my life, um, so basically like I had to do something different than what I was doing. Right, I started with my fear of being uncovered, which was a big thing for me. We come came from a very, very conservative religion and it was very looked down upon to show your body.

Bart: 12:15

So could I ask you a question? Yeah, now this is something we haven't discussed. So, you can say you know and avoid it here Pass. But do you think having the ability to cover up your body and to hide yourself played into the not necessarily the gaining the weight, but hiding the weight or hiding behind something that affected you?

Sunny: 12:39

Um, I don't know if I fully understand your question, but even like, when winter comes, for example, hiding my body under all the clothes and stuff, I don't pay as much attention to it.

Bart: 12:50

Is that kind of what you're saying? Yeah, plus like, like. If you knew, for example, like during that whole time period, that you were going to be sending photos to somebody, would that made a difference?

Sunny: 13:01

Absolutely.

Bart: 13:02

Yeah, and that's that's what I'm trying to get at is, so many times in life we find shields, we find stuff because we can't, it's not, not even thought.

Sunny: 13:11

Yeah.

Bart: 13:12

It's literally because we can't. And if let's just say we all had to be naked and walk around, would we live in a different world?

Sunny: 13:21

I believe we would. Yeah, a hundred percent, yeah, okay, let's hundred percent.

Bart: 13:23

Yeah, okay, let's keep going.

Sunny: 13:24

Yeah yeah, it's definitely a shield and a cover up. So for me, like it was terrifying to be uncovered, because I was taught that was not a cool thing to do. Like it was looked at, it was very looked down upon. So I went to our local little lake that has a walking path with trees surrounding it and I literally waited until people passed and nobody was in sight. And then I took my t-shirt off so I just had my sports bra on and I walked 150 steps ish right to my car and then I put it on as quickly as I could and I had anxiety, anxiety the whole time and I was like whew. And then I came home. I'm like guess what I did and you encouraged me and you were so proud of me.

Bart: 14:00

Yeah, and I just want you to know how beautiful you were, even in the photos. You always were so nice about that. Well, not being nice, I truly wasn't like even thinking about it. There was never a time for me that I ever was like woof, how do I work this in? Or, you know, hire her a coach, or how do I get her more fit. You know, like it never even entered my mind. Um, I never even saw that, which was so interesting. So when you started bringing it up, it was like a moment for me of like wow, I'm grateful she wants to do this, but what's the psychology behind this? You know, no, honestly, like, because at the time I was so infatuated with you and still didn't even I didn't see that Right, and I think that's another part of life Sometimes what we think other people see and what we think other people perceive isn't always the truth.

Bart: 14:58

I wonder how often it is, I agree, yeah, like, but but once again, often or not often, it's a thing. Sometimes we probably need to sit with ourselves in.

Sunny: 15:08

Yeah.

Bart: 15:08

And just really think about that for a second. Yeah, because we destroy ourselves internally, because we think and even if I told you there was a lot of times you're like there's no way.

Sunny: 15:21

Yeah, I couldn't believe it you.

Bart: 15:23

There was a lot of times you're like there's no way.

Sunny: 15:25

Yeah, I couldn't believe it, but reality is it never, ever, crossed my mind, which is so interesting, as I think about not looking back on the story Almost made me get a little cheered up there. So yeah, back to the story. Every day, I tried to do it again, and I would try to go a little further and further. And then I did something that shocked you, which was I hired Jeff to get me to a bikini competition.

Bart: 15:47

Yeah.

Sunny: 15:48

It was at that point that I was like this is not working. I'm not where I want to be. Yeah, I got to do something even more drastic. Yeah, and you found out through Jeff or through me, through Jeff, you did. Yeah.

Bart: 16:01

No, no, no, I take that back. I did find out through you, okay. One day you finally came to me and said hey, it's been a month, or I want to say a month, or maybe longer. I don't know, probably not longer, I want you to know that this is what I've done and this is what I was going to do.

Sunny: 16:25

And I wish we a few setbacks along the way, but at the end of the day, I got there and I walked across the stage and you know, imagine the girl who was scared to walk 150 steps with a sports bra on and now I'm stepping fully nude into a spray tanning booth where another human is spraying her down, yeah, and then walking across that stage. Right, it's pretty crazy. It is like I'm a different person, yeah, and so that was very transformative for me, and it it did increase my confidence in my body, but also in myself, and had I not taken that major step to lean into fear, I never would have achieved or become what I wanted to Such a beautiful thing and I'm so proud of you because you know there that says so much for you, because it wasn't even a passion you had.

Bart: 17:09

but in a way it was a passion you had. But you looked what it's going to take to fulfill the thing for you and said I can keep inching my way or I can sign up for something that's going to absolutely expose me and I'm going to lean into this wholeheartedly, not look back and go for it.

Sunny: 17:29

Which you're a great example of that, to me too Well thanks.

Sunny: 17:31

And I also appreciated Jeff's coaching because at the end of the day, he's like this is about the journey. This is not just about the stage, right, and when I say this was transformative to me, it was the journey, it really was. Yeah, I agree. So a story from your life that I could bring up here is that you are one who's always ready to jump right into a new ecosystem and you don't hold back, right, Like it's shocking to a lot of people that you are full-time, full-on cowboy. And then you stepped into the cycling world and you didn't even hesitate, not even a hesitation, to put on a cycling kit with spandex and all the things. And you know, cowboys don't understand that yeah.

Sunny: 18:11

You know, but you would just laugh it off. Yeah, you'd be like no, I'm with this tribe here, I'm going to go have some fun while I'm there. You know, um, and I like to joke that I like to dip my toes into the pool to see if the water is warm or cold before I jump in and you just cannonball. It's a really cool thing, thanks. Once in a while you do get out of your comfort zone.

Sunny: 18:32

And one of those would be when Russell asked you to style him for the first time for Fun and Lacking Life.

Bart: 18:37

Yeah, it was a big deal. So you know so little you know. Context to this was it wasn't that I was new to styling and it wasn't that I was not comfortable in buying clothes, but it stage photos. Everything depended upon what I was picking out.

Sunny: 18:52

Yeah, and if you understand the psychology of style, you know that if your style and your message are incongruent, you can have a very impact, big impact, on how the event goes.

Bart: 19:19

Also, if you understand photography and videography, the style and things like that have a big impact, also the way cameras work. Also, if your colors are different, not so if the logos and the colors don't work and who you're speaking with you know. If your colors are different and if you have an authority figure with you versus a non-authority figure with you, there's a lot of things to think through.

Sunny: 19:44

Not just the clothing.

Bart: 19:45

Not just the clothing and when. So it's fun for me and it was always fun for me and I always thought on that level, but to actually have cash, and I mean great, and a lot of money invested in you to make this happen, it was like, wow, this is crazy. And so it was so out of my comfort zone that I didn't sleep for nights. It was so out of my comfort zone that I spent hours and hours looking at things and researching things and dialing in the things that I thought were the right things and looking at brands and what did they mean? And if Russell was caught with his brand on, would somebody say, oh, you support XYZ or you do this. And so, therefore and it was on me because he didn't know any better, you know, or whatever it might be.

Bart: 20:32

So there, there was a ton there and, uh, I do take it very, very serious, and I found over time that I got so much anxiety that I would turn people down. I know people would want to hire me and I'd be like no, you know, like hard no, and it'd be like, what about this amount of money? I'd be like, you know, I just know, and it took a lot of self work. I actually went to an event that helped me literally get past this block that I was having and so much anxiety, so much everything around it. So it was, it was like for you that that show. You know, it just really really helped me learn about myself, to get real with myself, to understand the gifts that I had, the things that I had, the things that I was thinking through and all that kind of stuff at a level and then present it to the world, and that has been a transformational thing for me.

Sunny: 21:28

So thank you for picking that up and and I would add, it's been an added bonus to us in the fact that it's now a part of our magnetic program with an offer that we probably wouldn't have if you wouldn't have stepped into that.

Bart: 21:41

I agree, yeah, and something now that I do have fun with and it's I don't lose as much sleep I still lose a little, but I don't lose as much sleep with and I truly enjoy doing with people and looking at their overall arching brand and understand all those dynamics and help bring light to them. Is is a really cool thing for me.

Sunny: 22:02

Love it. Okay, so some ideas for people who are listening or reading. What are some things you can do this year to switch up your energy, to break from your routine, to intentionally change your personality or expand your life experience? You can start really small. Here's some, and then maybe you can throw some in regularly try new foods you normally wouldn't eat, and that's a small thing. But I mean, how many times do we go to the restaurants and order the same things? Um, that would. That reminds me of when Tyson Durfee came to visit us.

Bart: 22:30

Yeah, yeah, do you want me to tell?

Sunny: 22:32

a story.

Bart: 22:32

Yeah, so Tyson came and, uh, our little guy Xander loves Indian food and he loves butter chicken and we have a restaurant that just does an amazing job at this and so we go there quite regularly. And Tyson was in the car and I asked him what he wanted for food and he basically said a generic meal. And Xander goes I want to have butter chicken. And Tyson goes what is that? And Xander explained it and said where it was from. And Tyson said this is a Texas guy that eats only these things.

Sunny: 23:07

And potatoes.

Bart: 23:08

That's what I'm going to do and Xander was really cool about it and he was like okay, but Tyson, you always talk about doing hard things and all this kind of stuff, you know.

Bart: 23:18

And so he looked at Tyson and said would you try it? And Tyson was like a rock star, the champion that he is. And Tyson said okay, but if we don't like it we're going somewhere else. And Xander goes perfect, you're the only one we'll be feeding, Anyway. So we get there and the waiter asks what we want and Tyson literally looks at Xander and says order it for me, like I have no clue. So we get our butter chicken, everything like that, we sit down, we eat it and Tyson is like what, how have I been missing out on this in life? This is amazing. Like holy moly, right, and had this experience. And we could tell another story on top of that. But just, the moral of the story is is?

Sunny: 24:03

that the last two times he's come to visit every time it is on the list that we have which I don't complain about.

Bart: 24:10

No, it's absolutely awesome, and big shout out to Tyson for the being able to try something new.

Sunny: 24:17

But it's just cool. It's just a little thing, but it's expanded his life experience, Something he found, something that he now loves Totally. I mean you could try a new hairstyle or a new style of clothing. Yeah, I mean, for me I kind of did this crazy thing where I went and got a nose ring and you know and you know gave me a different energy.

Sunny: 24:33

Yeah, you can venture beyond your normal network or way of doing things to try a new hobby. I mean, how cool is it when you plug into a whole new network of people just from going and trying something new?

Bart: 24:45

Yep.

Sunny: 24:46

Try something that interests you, or even try something that doesn't. You might surprise yourself. Listen to different music in a different genre. You could do that once a week. Just turn something new on, see if something clicks with you, or try to understand why it doesn't Set a yes day, where you spend a day saying yes to new experiences that come your way, no matter how unusual they seem. And I think it's fascinating that everything that we see that's created in life is because somebody said yes to creating it. Yeah, and if you really sit and think about it, even the chair you're sitting in somebody said yes to creating that. How many things have we said no to that we could say yes to? Or what are we currently saying yes to and do we want to say yes to it?

Bart: 25:28

Yeah, and I think another good one is you know what is your fears? You know, look at some of the fears that you have and, just like Sunny, a fear of exposing her body. Now, good or bad, it was a fear because it was ingrained in her from different things. Right, Was it her fear or was it another fear? You can debate that with yourself, but what are your fears? And what would it be like to step into one of those fears and just say you know what? I'm going all in, I'm just going to try this and absolutely go after it and just dominate one of your fears. So one of your fears might be to step on the back of a bull and actually- that is a fear of mine, right.

Bart: 26:14

Just do it right, or something like that. And I'm using something dramatic because so many times you know we want to live life and you know let me just give you one analogy here that may help you You're the most alive in your life at this point. Now I'm going to give you this example. You're the most alive when you're about to die. You're the most alive when you're about to die. You make the greatest choices in your life when you're about to die.

Sunny: 26:47

Isn't that crazy.

Bart: 26:48

Isn't that crazy, right? You'll change everything. If you knew you were going to die in a week from now, you would do things.

Sunny: 26:54

You'll do, the things that you've been wanting to do, but you're too scared to do.

Bart: 26:56

Yeah, so you know, like I learned this when I was talking, I can't remember the whole thing, but basically a guy says every time somebody is on a bungee cord and we're going to drop them off, they've never been more alive, their senses, everything about them comes alive because they have one fear they could die, right.

Bart: 27:27

And so that's a funny thing about life, if you want, and that's why adrenaline junkies love adrenaline because you're pushing the edge of being alive. There's other ways to do that, by facing different things, but it makes you alive because you just don't know. But once you're in it, you can have the time of your life or you can be scared shitless, right. But at the same time they're the same sense.

Sunny: 27:52

Yep, they really are.

Bart: 27:53

They're really the same sense, just how you perceive them. It's how you perceive them and what you decide to do with them.

Sunny: 27:57

Anyway don't want to get too sideways. No, that's actually a deep subject and I thought about adding it to the newsletter, so I'm really glad that you did, because what you fear is actually um, what's the word I want as as a signal to you, especially in a creative life? Yeah, if you have something that you're fearful to do, that's probably the direction that you're called to.

Bart: 28:20

Exactly right.

Sunny: 28:21

And so if you think about Bart's analogy just now of like you're going to feel the most alive, that is where you'll feel the most alive is pursuing that thing that scares you.

Bart: 28:30

Yeah, and it's anyway the psychology of it and the feelings that you get from fear and excitement. We like to separate as humans right, Because we've been taught that they're different when they're not different, it's just what you just said a second ago, how we perceive them.

Sunny: 28:51

Yeah, this reminds me of going on a roller coaster and I was like very fearful and then decided I'm like no, I'm excited, I'm excited, I'm excited and I had the best time. But when I sat and thought about how scared I was, I had a lot of anxiety.

Bart: 29:03

Yeah, and I'll give you another analogy.

Sunny: 29:05

Exact same feeling in my body, though.

Bart: 29:07

Yeah, so there was this little guy and he really wanted to break this board. We were at this event and there was this board in front of us that you had to hit really hard to break and have a breakthrough. He had wrote all his stuff on it. Little guy was probably only, I would guess, 10 years old.

Sunny: 29:23

Was he that old? I don't know. Let's just say he's 10.

Bart: 29:26

Okay, and he was standing there and he was scared to death, he was crying, he was having all sorts of anxiety.

Sunny: 29:35

His parents didn't know what to do.

Bart: 29:37

Nobody did, even the instructor. And so I walked over to this little guy and I said hey, can I talk to you for a second? He said yeah. I said, look, right now you're scared to death, right? He goes. Yeah, I go tell me somebody who wouldn't be scared to death. He goes Hulk. The Hulk would not be scared. And I said can you transform into the Hulk really quick? Hulk smash. And he goes Hulk smash. And I go that's awesome, buddy, it's really good. So if you were the Hulk, could you break that board? He goes yeah. And I said why don't you just be the Hulk for a second? And Hulk smashed that board. And this kid walked over to that board and just yelled Hulk smash. And punched through the board. And he was just looked at me, looked at his parents, looked at everybody around, with this absolute, pure shock in his system, and then all of a sudden, the tears, everything came to him, just overwhelmed.

Sunny: 30:36

He was so happy, so happy.

Bart: 30:41

And I was just like wow. But he stepped into that fear through allowing himself to be somebody else so that he could make a breakthrough. Now, that's a psychology in itself, but I just want you to think that's a whole nother program.

Sunny: 30:55

we do Whole nother program which is called Magnetic.

Bart: 30:57

But my point is we've got it inside of us. We do. It's just drawing it out and changing that fear into excitement, like the Hulk would, he wouldn't think twice about that. And once that kid understood that and that he could be the Hulk, it was a game changer for him. And we have those game changing things in us and they lay inside of us, but yet we still look at it as fear sometimes and that boredom is crying.

Sunny: 31:25

Yep, so good. What a great story. Thank you, okay, some bigger ideas you can do for the year, though, so we kind of talked about some small ones. Sign up for something that scares you, which it could be a 10K, could be a bodybuilding thing, it could be a new mastermind. You're going to a new marketing meetup or a new networking group, something that, like, you got to step into it and find your Hulk.

Bart: 31:46

Go do it. It scares the crap out of you, but you're going to do it.

Sunny: 31:49

Learn a new language. That could be a year long journey, but kind of a fun thing to do. It's kind of big. It's big because it's a process Agreed and this one is so much harder than it might sound. Explore a new topic that you are actually against and get a new perspective on it. Yep, like, what are my beliefs? What am I totally against? I'm going to go learn about it.

Bart: 32:20

Yeah, and we and I'll give you one analogy that we've used in our life is and I know this could be crazy for some of you, but the belief of the marriage term versus partnership and what that looks like.

Sunny: 32:26

And I'm going to be clear here, Like when you first said that it triggered me well, it triggered me, that's my marriage, you're talking about. Like that is something that I hold very dear.

Bart: 32:36

We have beliefs around that.

Sunny: 32:37

So it was hard for me to like. Here's where it gets. Hard is like separating, like I don't have to believe. What I'm going to learn is what I have to tell myself, totally so that I can actually approach it from a healthy energy.

Bart: 32:52

Yeah, you're stepping into something else and look at it, which is so good, and that's the cool part about you, sunny, and hopefully a good part about me, for sure. Is that we have the capacity to talk about crazy things like crazy things and yet walk out the other side and say so what? We can still believe the same way we believe. Yeah, but doing this and forcing ourselves to do it allows us to grow and maybe actually change. Yeah, Maybe really look at and say, man, maybe I was looking at that the wrong way.

Sunny: 33:28

I guess the thing here is like we can get so closed down in our thinking that we're not willing to look at or explore other perspectives. Yeah, and that really does kind of lead to more of a constrictive life, like if you don't understand it. How can you even know that maybe it's better for you?

Bart: 33:45

Yeah, yeah, or that you've been brainwashed. Yeah, there you go. Anyway, let's keep going.

Sunny: 33:49

Yeah. So, like you know, an example I'd be one like in the past and I'm really trying to work on this I would just dig my heels in and be like, oh, feel triggered, feel pressure for all these things, and it's really like you know what, just because I'm exploring, it doesn't mean I don't have to believe it, and that allows me to explore things without that pressure.

Bart: 34:07

Yeah, and here's a cool thing that as you go through that is the more triggered, the more everything. It's's like you're putting those baggier clothes on, avoiding the situation, yeah, when reality is that isn't even necessarily what you want, but it's an escape and therefore it shows up in other ways. But anyway, that's a whole. Like I said, we can go on so many tangents that I dare say but some food for thought, because it is a very expansive, life-changing, transformative thing.

Bart: 34:32

When you're able to do that, yeah, and when you're able to do that, yeah, and when you're able to stand in your partner's shoes the best you can, the best you can, and explore some of those different things, it can really enlighten you on so many things, which is so cool. And so in partnership and relationships, I find so many times as partners as I, as I communicate with a lot of different couples and we do right is they? They aren't, they're so afraid to tell the one they love the most, who they are, exposed things that they actually are, uh, suffocating the relationship, which is really interesting because it should be the person that you think they're doing the best thing for the relationship.

Sunny: 35:12

Probably, or like I don't know.

Bart: 35:14

Yeah, and then here's the crazy part they don't think that the other person knows it.

Sunny: 35:20

Right. When reality is, they do yeah.

Bart: 35:25

In some way, shape or form they feel the energy.

Sunny: 35:26

Some way they feel it.

Bart: 35:27

They feel it right and so, anyway, we'll get on this in a couple's thing later on. A couple's thing later on, but it's. It's really awesome when you have a partnership or a marriage or relationship whatever you want to term it to where literally you can say anything and your partner may be pissed Yep, they may actually be so angry that they can't stand themselves and you know Bart and I like we put on, we fight. Yeah, because we have these conversations.

Sunny: 35:57

Yep.

Bart: 35:58

But I know, and I beyond know, and you know, that if we didn't, It'd be worse. Our growth isn't going to be where we want it to be. Yeah, therefore.

Sunny: 36:11

And if you're not going to grow together, you're not going to stay together.

Bart: 36:14

Right, and if you're not going to grow together, you're not going to stay together, right, and so, therefore, you or I walk away, pissed off. But we always have the mindset of, hmm, what if they're right? Yeah, what if this is important, what if? And then we sit and we stew on it. We go through a process and one of the things we do with each other not that needs to be here is are you my soulmate? Yes, sir, am I your soulmate? Yes, I am Okay. Are we working? Are we together, working on? I mean, are we on the same team? Yes, we are Okay. Then we're not fighting each other, right? So, on a team, if you've ever been on a team and one group wants to do it this way and another group wants to do it that way, what is the outcome you really still want?

Sunny: 36:59

To be on a team.

Bart: 37:00

To win, right, yep, to be on the team and win, that's what you want, and if you want that and collectively, you will win. Yeah, and that's the cool part about it. You may not play it and it may not work, but at the end of the day, collectively as a group, you still win. Anyway, let's move on.

Sunny: 37:18

Well, there's just one more thing that came to mind while we were talking and this may be another rabbit hole, but it goes along with it. So, in the in the regards of, like, picking a topic and exploring things that may trigger you, if you find people or things around you triggering to you, this is a big thing, I would say, for writing your story. Um, those are the things that you need to look at in yourself, because whatever is triggering you, you're actually projecting onto somebody else and we probably don't have a lot of time here to get into projection.

Sunny: 37:49

That could be a whole nother topic, but go look it up, yep, and if you've never thought about it before, you will be shocked to learn that your projections are coming from you.

Bart: 38:01

Yeah, it's so good.

Sunny: 38:02

The cool thing is, though, once you're aware of them, you can change your whole life.

Bart: 38:06

Yeah, you can, and it's so insightful because man was I projecting on you and vice versa, right, what we do, and that's the. That was the thing that was so cool for us to learn together and experience together.

Sunny: 38:17

Yep, okay, so here's to 2025. Have some fun this week planning, exploring and begin writing this new and exciting chapter in your life.

Bart: 38:26

Yeah, and in your business.

Sunny: 38:28

Yep, yep, it's all part of the deal. It is Okay. Life updates we made it back from Wickenburg Arizona.

Bart: 38:38

Let's go.

Sunny: 38:38

It's a 13-hour drive and let's just say that driving to warm weather is way more fun than driving to cold weather.

Bart: 38:45

Yeah, Found that out when our diesel started to gel.

Sunny: 38:49

The bar is a rock star driver. Let's be clear I don't do any of the driving.

Sunny: 39:01

We have a 45-foot trailer and a big old pickup and I think we would take probably 26 hours. If I was a driver if we made it at all, we'd make it for sure. Um, the perception shift when we get home is really fun for me, because, after living for two weeks in a trailer, we walk into our house. I'm like we live in a mansion. There's so much room. So true, that's a fun part of coming home for me. So true, you practiced roping while we were there all week with Jason, who was an excellent coach.

Sunny: 39:23

Yep, and you entered up into a jackpot the last day we were there, yeah, and we were so stoked with how well you roped.

Bart: 39:31

It was awesome.

Sunny: 39:32

It was incredible, yeah, what a lot of you don't realize is I've switched ends.

Bart: 39:41

So right now I'm back in that you suck stage and having fun with it. But you know what I'm saying. Like it's, it's one of those things that I'm I'm starting at a different level than I am on the other end, and so that's been something. But and I'm sure Sonia will get to this, but you know, knowing that we were the pickleball champions really helped me include that really helped me.

Sunny: 39:55

We are the undefeated pickleball champions of Wickenburg, arizona, undefeated.

Bart: 39:59

Let's go, champions Dale got your number. Anyway, uh, so that was a lot of fun. We got to, we got to spend a lot of time to you know, good time together doing that, and, uh, sonny crushed a lot of the work that we were doing right there Cause we had a challenge coming up, yep, and I got a rope. And then we got to go to a bigger you know, like I said, entered up in a rope and had a lot of fun.

Sunny: 40:23

So Yep, we had a great time. And then, as far as business goes, bart just mentioned, we just started running our first ever challenge, the Epic Execution Challenge, and we'll probably throw some updates in here on what went right, what went wrong and everything in between.

Bart: 40:38

Yep, let's go. And if you want to be part of that, still jump in, go for it.

Sunny: 40:41

Yep EpicExecutionChallengecom. Right on, right on. Okay, that's it for me today.

Bart: 40:48

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